(January 26, 2021 at 1:40 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Consideration of race is only racist if race isn't a relevant factor.  Considering race when race matters isn't racist.  Same with sex. God you are stupid.

Go blow smoke up somebody else's ass, sweetie.

I'm not buying your doublespeak.


Racist is making choices or judgements based on race.


Period.

You got an answer to that question as soon as you'd asked OLB, and must have decided either after that point or before you ever got the answer that it was emotional codswallop.

You have made it plainly apparent that you believe that others don't think that [insert collection of white men here] are worthy on account of their whiteness. You believe that tubman is only considered worthy for her blackness. This is the only thing you will accept as reason™. You need more practice at this before you try it out in the wild, or, if we're getting what you put out in the wild, you might want to consider putting a stop to that until you have a better grasp of what's good for bad.

(January 26, 2021 at 1:50 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(January 26, 2021 at 1:40 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Consideration of race is only racist if race isn't a relevant factor.  Considering race when race matters isn't racist.  Same with sex. God you are stupid.

Go blow smoke up somebody else's ass, sweetie.

I'm not buying your doublespeak.


Racist is making choices or judgements based on race.


Period.

It's not solely on the basis of race or sex.

Considering a person's race or sex where the effects of race or sex are realistic concerns is not racist or sexist. If they are discriminating on some basis other than their mere membership in a race or sex, it's not racist or sexist.

So, then, in your view, counseling black parents about the greater risk of sickle cell anemia is racist? And it's sexist that a doctor might worry about prostrate issues with you, but not with me. When's your next mammogram, friend?

Yeah, you're fucking stupid.

He really isn't. It's part of the attempt to define racism so narrowly that nothing is racist, especially nothing that he has to say, which feeds into the white victimization narrative he's actively peddling in thread.

If pressed, he'll pull a mcarthy, and insist that he's not racist or nuts, -that the libtards made him do and say all those things as much as The Radical Left™ is to blame for the failed white separatist insurrection.

Quote:Ahhhhh..

So your choice includes the factors of race and sex.


Amazing..

And for my questioning it - somehow - I am the racist.....

Sexist too - no doubt.


Thanks for clearing it up....


VA

Consider race isn't racist dumbass. The idea that nothing less than colour blindness is racist is stupid. In fact, colour blindness can be a form of racism as it leads to incredibly tone-deaf ideas about race.

(January 26, 2021 at 1:50 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(January 26, 2021 at 1:40 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Consideration of race is only racist if race isn't a relevant factor.  Considering race when race matters isn't racist.  Same with sex. God you are stupid.

Go blow smoke up somebody else's ass, sweetie.

I'm not buying your doublespeak.


Racist is making choices or judgements based on race.


Period.

Siri Gibberish Translator, " You are discriminating against whites by defending Tubman." 

Sorry buddy, but it was whites during her time, that wanted to keep blacks as slaves, the whites back then based that on race, so it is not doublespeak to point out that reality. She was a black woman who risked her life to free others from white people who wanted to keep them as slaves.

This is what far too many whites don't get or accept about our history. "This minority" did this, or "this first minority did that" isn't focusing on race. It is an acceptance that America can and should recognize contributions of minorities. 

This is why even today, people with your mindset don't understand that "BLM' isn't claiming black lives matter more than white lives, but merely that they matter as well.  America is not at a stage of equality. If you think we are, you are fooling yourself. Things have certainly improved since Tubman's time, but America still has not fully grasped or understood our history. 

There are far more white people honored in our history than other minorities. Honoring the contributions of blacks, Hispanics, latinos, and gays isn't saying, "stop honoring white people." 

Jackson was a genocidal madman, Tubman risked her life to save innocent people. I don't understand what is so hard about understanding that.

Race apathy over antipathy, 100% of the effect, 0% of the effort.

(January 26, 2021 at 2:10 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:Ahhhhh..

So your choice includes the factors of race and sex.


Amazing..

And for my questioning it - somehow - I am the racist.....

Sexist too - no doubt.


Thanks for clearing it up....


VA

Consider race isn't racist dumbass. The idea that nothing less than colour blindness is racist is stupid. In fact, colour blindness can be a form of racism as it leads to incredibly tone-deaf ideas about race.

^^^^^^^ SOOOOO MUCH THIS!

Maybe a solution is to alter your currency even more often. Instead of keeping the same faces on bills and coins for decades, why not swap them out every few years? A move toward equity might even be to gradually get rid of politicians forever, and start honouring Americans from other fields - scientists, explorers, musicians, authors, etc.

You do it for postage stamps, you could do it for coins and banknotes.

Boru

(January 26, 2021 at 2:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe a solution is to alter your currency even more often. Instead of keeping the same faces on bills and coins for decades, why not swap them out every few years? A move toward equity might even be to gradually get rid of politicians forever, and start honouring Americans from other fields - scientists, explorers, musicians, authors, etc.

You do it for postage stamps, you could do it for money.

Boru

That is a good idea.