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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 5, 2021 at 8:57 am
Here's to hoping that the medical examiners don't seem angry, bratty, or bitchy, I guess?
As that would clearly tank the credibility of an autopsy.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 5, 2021 at 3:50 pm
(April 5, 2021 at 8:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Here's to hoping that the medical examiners don't seem angry, bratty, or bitchy, I guess?
As that would clearly tank the credibility of an autopsy.
Or lying under oath, as that MMA guy did when he said he wasn't angry, because the word angry was triggering or microaggressive to him.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 5, 2021 at 3:51 pm
Yeah, that.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 5, 2021 at 4:29 pm
The defense lawyer just asked the Police chief if he was a physicist in regards to Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck. How fucking irrelevant and a cheap shot. Any layperson can look at that video and know that there was enough force on Floyd's neck to cause distress and affect breathing.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 5, 2021 at 4:31 pm
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(April 5, 2021 at 3:50 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: (April 5, 2021 at 8:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Here's to hoping that the medical examiners don't seem angry, bratty, or bitchy, I guess?
As that would clearly tank the credibility of an autopsy.
Or lying under oath, as that MMA guy did when he said he wasn't angry, because the word angry was triggering or microaggressive to him.
These are the prosecution's witnesses you're talking about. They are coached by a team of attorneys ahead of testifying. They know the strategies that the defense will use to discredit them as witnesses. So when the defense asks "are you angry," "so you were angry," "and that's when you got really angry," etc, they're trying to paint a picture of the witness so the jury no longer takes them seriously. That's why he responded that way, and why he couldn't give a simple "yes" or "no."
This is incredibly common in cases of all kinds. You're an idiot if you don't push back, at least a little, on cross examination like that.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 5, 2021 at 4:37 pm
(April 5, 2021 at 4:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The defense lawyer just asked the Police chief if he was a physicist in regards to Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck. How fucking irrelevant and a cheap shot. Any layperson can look at that video and know that there was enough force on Floyd's neck to cause distress and affect breathing.
It’s really all they’ve got, Brian. Everyone is entitled to a defense, even if the defense is a lousy one.
It’s like the old adage:
-If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts.
-If the law is on your side, pound on the law.
-If neither one of those is on your side, pound on the table.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 5, 2021 at 4:40 pm
(April 5, 2021 at 4:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (April 5, 2021 at 4:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The defense lawyer just asked the Police chief if he was a physicist in regards to Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck. How fucking irrelevant and a cheap shot. Any layperson can look at that video and know that there was enough force on Floyd's neck to cause distress and affect breathing.
It’s really all they’ve got, Brian. Everyone is entitled to a defense, even if the defense is a lousy one.
It’s like the old adage:
-If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts.
-If the law is on your side, pound on the law.
-If neither one of those is on your side, pound on the table.
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Don't get me wrong, that certainly is the lawyer's job. I simply think attacking a carreer police cheif like that was not good for his defense.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 5, 2021 at 4:44 pm
(April 5, 2021 at 4:40 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (April 5, 2021 at 4:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s really all they’ve got, Brian. Everyone is entitled to a defense, even if the defense is a lousy one.
It’s like the old adage:
-If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts.
-If the law is on your side, pound on the law.
-If neither one of those is on your side, pound on the table.
Boru
Don't get me wrong, that certainly is the lawyer's job. I simply think attacking a carreer police cheif like that was not good for his defense.
Again, what else can they do? The video makes it all but impossible to defend Chauvin’s actions (primarily because his actions were indefensible), so the defense are left with trying to make everyone who DIDN’T kneel on Floyd’s neck look worse than the man who did.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 5, 2021 at 5:15 pm
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 5, 2021 at 5:35 pm
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