(May 4, 2021 at 2:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 4, 2021 at 2:20 pm)Drich Wrote: idk maybe youre schizophrenic, either way this is not the thread to discuss your mental defects.

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i have S&W in stock

Gun sales don't increase because of the way democrats vote. That is fucking bullshit. Gun sales increase because of GOP scaring the shit out of their base.

sorry no this is from the horse's mouth:








from your hoses mouth and his official campaign position. brother it's not the reps telling us the dims are after our guns it's the biggest dim of all telling us we dont need such guns.

I can see how you'd have to maintain the lie, given that you went into business, explicitly, to profit from it. Rock and a hard place.

I don' t put any crimp on .450 BM. I have checked OAL on unfired rounds in the magazine - and none have moved. Heavier loaded rounds exhibit no problem.

(May 4, 2021 at 3:34 pm)Drich Wrote:

(May 4, 2021 at 2:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Gun sales don't increase because of the way democrats vote. That is fucking bullshit. Gun sales increase because of GOP scaring the shit out of their base.

sorry no this is from the horse's mouth:








from your hoses mouth and his official campaign position. brother it's not the reps telling us the dims are after our guns it's the biggest dim of all telling us we dont need such guns.

I never get a good answer as to how many firerarms on our streets would be enough? 1 billion? 10 billion? 50 billion?

Both sides agree that we "should keep firearms out of the wrong hands". But again, if our laws worked the way the right claims, we would not have the amount of firearm violence we do. Name me any other country of our western allies that comes close to our level of firearm violence. 

Tell you what, I will shut up when our level of firearm violence is reduced to the same levels as say Australia or Japan. Neither of those countries are dictatorships.

(May 5, 2021 at 8:59 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 4, 2021 at 3:34 pm)Drich Wrote: sorry no this is from the horse's mouth:








from your hoses mouth and his official campaign position. brother it's not the reps telling us the dims are after our guns it's the biggest dim of all telling us we dont need such guns.

I never get a good answer as to how many firerarms on our streets would be enough? 1 billion? 10 billion? 50 billion?

Both sides agree that we "should keep firearms out of the wrong hands". But again, if our laws worked the way the right claims, we would not have the amount of firearm violence we do. Name me any other country of our western allies that comes close to our level of firearm violence. 

Tell you what, I will shut up when our level of firearm violence is reduced to the same levels as say Australia or Japan. Neither of those countries are dictatorships.

Why should he?

You have NEVER said how you would " prevent them from handing out guns like candy". Never.

And you won' t now.

You' re too busy bleating your same old tired rhetoric.

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(May 5, 2021 at 8:59 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 4, 2021 at 3:34 pm)Drich Wrote: sorry no this is from the horse's mouth:








from your hoses mouth and his official campaign position. brother it's not the reps telling us the dims are after our guns it's the biggest dim of all telling us we dont need such guns.

I never get a good answer as to how many firerarms on our streets would be enough? 1 billion? 10 billion? 50 billion?

Both sides agree that we "should keep firearms out of the wrong hands". But again, if our laws worked the way the right claims, we would not have the amount of firearm violence we do. Name me any other country of our western allies that comes close to our level of firearm violence. 

Tell you what, I will shut up when our level of firearm violence is reduced to the same levels as say Australia or Japan. Neither of those countries are dictatorships.

The number is 3,194,276,125. Now move on.

Boru

(May 4, 2021 at 3:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I can see how you'd have to maintain the lie, given that you went into business, explicitly, to profit from it.  Rock and a hard place.

which lie am i being accused of now? you claim everything you cant refute a lie, which is alot.. i'm having trouble keeping up on which 'lie' your on about now.

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(May 4, 2021 at 3:40 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: I don' t put any crimp on .450 BM. I have checked OAL on unfired rounds in the magazine - and none have moved. Heavier loaded rounds exhibit no problem.

I'm not talking about the bullets being loose enough to shift in the case. i'm talking about once the powder is ignited and the powder starts to burn and build up pressure from the exhaust gass the projectile is released say at 500psi rather than 1500 psi 1000, being needed for a complete burn 1500 needed for a clean burn. a crimp would ensure the projectile stays in place for a clean burn.


either way still sounds like a premature discharge of the projectile. some powders need more pressure than others to burn. which seems to be confirmed by the use of a heavier projectile not have the same problem. maybe the heavy doesn't need the crimp because it's mass keeps it in place longer. also i would not dismiss the other things i mention without checking and ruling them out. I've personally had the same brand and mix but different batch number fire dirty with everything else remaining the same.

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(May 5, 2021 at 8:59 am)Brian37 Wrote: I never get a good answer as to how many firerarms on our streets would be enough? 1 billion? 10 billion? 50 billion?

Both sides agree that we "should keep firearms out of the wrong hands". But again, if our laws worked the way the right claims, we would not have the amount of firearm violence we do. Name me any other country of our western allies that comes close to our level of firearm violence. 

Tell you what, I will shut up when our level of firearm violence is reduced to the same levels as say Australia or Japan. Neither of those countries are dictatorships.

asked and answered already. short answer is guns are tools. and in this country we are allowed free access to said tools. now depending on an individual's familiarity with said tools and the different jobs those tools are needed to complete, some citizens may need more tools than others. I personally recommend 3 as there is no one jack of all trades/one size fits all. 1 for conceal carry. shot gun for home defense. and a carbine/assault rifle for the zombies/hunting. plus 1000 rounds for each gun. times every man woman legally allowed to have one. say 275 million people qualify makes just over 800 million minimum for this current generation, plus those who's skill set require more.

(May 5, 2021 at 1:11 pm)Drich Wrote:

(May 4, 2021 at 3:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I can see how you'd have to maintain the lie, given that you went into business, explicitly, to profit from it.  Rock and a hard place.

which lie am i being accused of now? you claim everything you cant refute a lie, which is alot.. i'm having trouble keeping up on which 'lie' your on about now.

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(May 4, 2021 at 3:40 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: I don' t put any crimp on .450 BM. I have checked OAL on unfired rounds in the magazine - and none have moved. Heavier loaded rounds exhibit no problem.

I'm not talking about the bullets being loose enough to shift in the case. i'm talking about once the powder is ignited and the powder starts to burn and build up pressure from the exhaust gass the projectile is released say at 500psi rather than 1500 psi 1000, being needed for a complete burn 1500 needed for a clean burn. a crimp would ensure the projectile stays in place for a clean burn.


either way still sounds like a premature discharge of the projectile. some powders need more pressure than others to burn. which seems to be confirmed by the use of a heavier projectile not have the same problem. maybe the heavy doesn't need the crimp because it's mass keeps it in place longer. also i would not dismiss the other things i mention without checking and ruling them out. I've personally had the same brand and mix but different batch number fire dirty with everything else remaining the same.

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(May 5, 2021 at 8:59 am)Brian37 Wrote: I never get a good answer as to how many firerarms on our streets would be enough? 1 billion? 10 billion? 50 billion?

Both sides agree that we "should keep firearms out of the wrong hands". But again, if our laws worked the way the right claims, we would not have the amount of firearm violence we do. Name me any other country of our western allies that comes close to our level of firearm violence. 

Tell you what, I will shut up when our level of firearm violence is reduced to the same levels as say Australia or Japan. Neither of those countries are dictatorships.

asked and answered already. short answer is guns are tools. and in this country we are allowed free access to said tools. now depending on an individual's familiarity with said tools and the different jobs those tools are needed to complete, some citizens may need more tools than others. I personally recommend 3 as there is no one jack of all trades/one size fits all. 1 for conceal carry. shot gun for home defense. and a carbine/assault rifle for the zombies/hunting. plus 1000 rounds for each gun. times every man woman legally allowed to have one. say 275 million people qualify makes just over 800 million minimum for this current generation, plus those who's skill set require more.

The actual number would be somewhat, though not drastically, lower.

The US has about 328 million people, 74 million of whom are minors who can’t own firearms. This brings us down to 254 million. Say (an admittedly arbitrary) 20% of those are not allowed firearms for various reasons - criminal records, mental instability, whatever. This brings us down to 204 million. Take away the 2 million or so currently incarcerated and rounding down, we get 200 million people at three guns each.

So, at 600 million guns, you can close up shop.

Boru

(May 5, 2021 at 2:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 5, 2021 at 1:11 pm)Drich Wrote: which lie am i being accused of now? you claim everything you cant refute a lie, which is alot.. i'm having trouble keeping up on which 'lie' your on about now.

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I'm not talking about the bullets being loose enough to shift in the case. i'm talking about once the powder is ignited and the powder starts to burn and build up pressure from the exhaust gass the projectile is released say at 500psi rather than 1500 psi 1000, being needed for a complete burn 1500 needed for a clean burn. a crimp would ensure the projectile stays in place for a clean burn.


either way still sounds like a premature discharge of the projectile. some powders need more pressure than others to burn. which seems to be confirmed by the use of a heavier projectile not have the same problem. maybe the heavy doesn't need the crimp because it's mass keeps it in place longer. also i would not dismiss the other things i mention without checking and ruling them out. I've personally had the same brand and mix but different batch number fire dirty with everything else remaining the same.

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asked and answered already. short answer is guns are tools. and in this country we are allowed free access to said tools. now depending on an individual's familiarity with said tools and the different jobs those tools are needed to complete, some citizens may need more tools than others. I personally recommend 3 as there is no one jack of all trades/one size fits all. 1 for conceal carry. shot gun for home defense. and a carbine/assault rifle for the zombies/hunting. plus 1000 rounds for each gun. times every man woman legally allowed to have one. say 275 million people qualify makes just over 800 million minimum for this current generation, plus those who's skill set require more.

The actual number would be somewhat, though not drastically, lower.

The US has about 328 million people, 74 million of whom are minors who can’t own firearms. This brings us down to 254 million. Say (an admittedly arbitrary) 20% of those are not allowed firearms for various reasons - criminal records, mental instability, whatever. This brings us down to 204 million. Take away the 2 million or so currently incarcerated and rounding down, we get 200 million people at three guns each.

So, at 600 million guns, you can close up shop.

Boru

3 guns?

Bwaaahahahahaaa




Now THAT'S funny!

(May 5, 2021 at 4:24 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(May 5, 2021 at 2:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The actual number would be somewhat, though not drastically, lower.

The US has about 328 million people, 74 million of whom are minors who can’t own firearms. This brings us down to 254 million. Say (an admittedly arbitrary) 20% of those are not allowed firearms for various reasons - criminal records, mental instability, whatever. This brings us down to 204 million. Take away the 2 million or so currently incarcerated and rounding down, we get 200 million people at three guns each.

So, at 600 million guns, you can close up shop.

Boru

3 guns?

Bwaaahahahahaaa




Now THAT'S funny!

Three guns was Drich’s recommendation, not mine.

Boru