(August 22, 2021 at 10:17 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(August 22, 2021 at 9:03 am)Ahriman Wrote: We are all God's children, in a continual process of learning to rely on Him. Life is easier, and more enjoyable, when we rely on God. I turned my back on Catholicism many years ago, but recently started praying again, after going through Hell, and my life has been steadily improving. I'm still going through Hell, but I'm not as paranoid now, and things have been working out for me. I bought a lot of cans of Chef Boyardee last night, and just this morning, they were delivered to my house. I plan on donating some of them to a food shelter.

Trump had tons of failed claims, like airlines, casinos, steak companies, fake universities.

Naked assertions make for good entertainment, but they suck as far as reality.

"We are all God's Children" 

Really, ok, fine, which one?

What lesson did the 6 million Jews who died from WW2 and Hitler learn? 

What did the 3,000 dead from 9/11/01 learn?

There is only one thing to learn, and that is, that we must rely on God for all our needs.

(August 22, 2021 at 10:15 am)Ahriman Wrote:

(August 22, 2021 at 10:12 am)brewer Wrote: The only you continue to exist after death is thru the memory of others. I expect to exist at the most for two generations.

Even if the memory of who you were, lives on in the memory of others, you wouldn't "exist" through them.

Exactly. But unless I's mistaken that's one of your primary fears.

(August 22, 2021 at 10:19 am)brewer Wrote:

(August 22, 2021 at 10:15 am)Ahriman Wrote: Even if the memory of who you were, lives on in the memory of others, you wouldn't "exist" through them.

Exactly. But unless I's mistaken that's one of your primary fears.

You mean, being forgotten? i don't give a shit about being remembered or forgotten. All I want, is to have the kind of afterlife that allows me to fulfill my vision for an ideal world.

(August 22, 2021 at 10:22 am)Ahriman Wrote:

(August 22, 2021 at 10:19 am)brewer Wrote: Exactly. But unless I's mistaken that's one of your primary fears.

You mean, being forgotten? i don't give a shit about being remembered or forgotten. All I want, is to have the kind of afterlife that allows me to fulfill my vision for an ideal world.

Exactly again, you fear that your not going to get everything you think you deserve/desire in this life but thru magic you'll get it in the after life.

I'm wondering what your waiting for?

(August 22, 2021 at 10:27 am)brewer Wrote:

(August 22, 2021 at 10:22 am)Ahriman Wrote: You mean, being forgotten? i don't give a shit about being remembered or forgotten. All I want, is to have the kind of afterlife that allows me to fulfill my vision for an ideal world.

Exactly again, you fear that your not going to get everything you think you deserve/desire in this life but thru magic you'll get it in the after life.

I'm wondering what your waiting for?

Money. Just money. I would need A LOT of money to fulfill my vision, in this life. Whereas the need for money, wouldn't exist in the afterlife.

(August 22, 2021 at 10:31 am)Ahriman Wrote:

(August 22, 2021 at 10:27 am)brewer Wrote: Exactly again, you fear that your not going to get everything you think you deserve/desire in this life but thru magic you'll get it in the after life.

I'm wondering what your waiting for?

Money. Just money. I would need A LOT of money to fulfill my vision, in this life. Whereas the need for money, wouldn't exist in the afterlife.

Fear again, this time fear of failure. If you start your own successful religion/sect based on your beliefs I'm confident that you'll acquire money, there are hundreds of examples.

But you won't make the attempt because,............... fear of failure. It will be easier for you if you continue to claim victim-hood.

(August 22, 2021 at 10:19 am)Ahriman Wrote: There is only one thing to learn, and that is, that we must rely on God for all our needs.

Good parents encourage their kids to learn, grow up and become self-sufficient.

And I see no point in relying on a god that would drown virtually everything on Earth in a tragicomically failed attempt to get rid of evil. If such a god actually did exist, it would be folly to trust in it.

(August 22, 2021 at 10:46 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(August 22, 2021 at 10:19 am)Ahriman Wrote: There is only one thing to learn, and that is, that we must rely on God for all our needs.

Good parents encourage their kids to learn, grow up and become self-sufficient.

And I see no point in relying on a god that would drown virtually everything on Earth in a tragicomically failed attempt to get rid of evil.  If such a god actually did exist, it would be folly to trust in it.

Well I didn't say God was a good parent.......maybe he's a bad parent. Good or bad, parents don't always succeed in raising self-sufficient people. The children/teenagers are free to make their own choices. But the role of parent, is not important, in this case. God is not so much a parent, as a motivational speaker, or life coach. He doesn't give you the tools you need to succeed, like a parent would, but instead, encourages you to remember that you already have all the tools you need, and that what you must do, is ACT. Carrying out a plan of action, is what God wants to see from you. God loathes stagnation, laziness, self-doubt.

But anyway.......perhaps the Flood did get rid of certain kinds of evil?

(August 23, 2021 at 8:30 am)Ahriman Wrote: Carrying out a plan of action, is what God wants to see from you.

Why do we have to get action plans from a god? I'm capable of directing my own life.

Quote:But anyway.......perhaps the Flood did get rid of certain kinds of evil?

Putting aside for a moment the mountains of evidence that indicates that the Noachide flood is pure mythology, it's hardly what I would call a reasonable, measured response. Why target animals and infants, rather than just the most egregiously bad-behaving humans? (I don't believe for one instant that Noah's family would have been the only "good" humans on Earth.) Sheesh - even a mid-level D&D magic user with the Finger of Death spell could've done a better job.

Quote: Why do we have to get action plans from a god? I'm capable of directing my own life.

Well right, exactly. God wants you to direct your own life.