(October 20, 2021 at 6:36 am)Ten Wrote: Boru brought up a good point in the Gay thread and I thought we could dive deeper with the question as the actual focus.

Why does god care about our genitals so much?

It's one of the things that really influenced my incredulity and atheism that a god would be so focused on our genitals and what we're doing with them. I know in Mormonism, the focus on sexual purity and repression is part of the BITE model programming for the cult(sex being such a natural part of being human, you can influence and control people by making them feel guilt and shame around this natural instinct they'll never be free from) and a core part of the doctrine(you can't have trans or gay folks because the model for the planetary rewards in the afterlife is Adam and 5+ Eves; The harem god factory doesn't work with Adam and 5+ Steves or if Eve was assigned male at birth, although it'd probably be more fun to run around an empty planet with a bunch of very gay god sex happening). So, I understand for that religious cult why they focus on genitals so much.

But why does god have this focus in other religions?

Christianity is obsessed with sex for the same reason as Big Brother obsessed about it.

(October 23, 2021 at 7:58 pm)Nomad Wrote:

(October 20, 2021 at 6:36 am)Ten Wrote: Boru brought up a good point in the Gay thread and I thought we could dive deeper with the question as the actual focus.

Why does god care about our genitals so much?

It's one of the things that really influenced my incredulity and atheism that a god would be so focused on our genitals and what we're doing with them. I know in Mormonism, the focus on sexual purity and repression is part of the BITE model programming for the cult(sex being such a natural part of being human, you can influence and control people by making them feel guilt and shame around this natural instinct they'll never be free from) and a core part of the doctrine(you can't have trans or gay folks because the model for the planetary rewards in the afterlife is Adam and 5+ Eves; The harem god factory doesn't work with Adam and 5+ Steves or if Eve was assigned male at birth, although it'd probably be more fun to run around an empty planet with a bunch of very gay god sex happening). So, I understand for that religious cult why they focus on genitals so much.

But why does god have this focus in other religions?

Christianity is obsessed with sex for the same reason as Big Brother obsessed about it.

I don't understand. Big brother is simply voyerism as far as I could tell from that few minutes I once watched it. That set bar for me. I do not watch any form of so-called 'reality television' because there's no such thing and because it embarrasses me to see people humiliated.

It's my position that the christian churches (at least) are preoccupied with sex because it's a powerful form of social control.  The church has always been about control and guilt.

(October 23, 2021 at 9:24 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote:

(October 23, 2021 at 7:58 pm)Nomad Wrote: Christianity is obsessed with sex for the same reason as Big Brother obsessed about it.

I don't understand. Big brother is simply voyerism as far as I could tell from that few minutes I once watched it. That set bar for me. I do not watch any form of so-called 'reality television' because there's no such thing and because it embarrasses me to see people humiliated.

It's my position that the christian churches (at least) are preoccupied with sex because it's a powerful form of social control.  The church has always been about control and guilt.

The original Big Brother from Nineteen Eighty-Four. There's quite a lot written in that book about the Party's obsession with controlling sex, and why. Religions, by and large, do the same kind of thing as described in the book.

(October 23, 2021 at 7:51 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

Quote:Angrboda

What part of "you can't be addicted to dopamine" do you not understand, you moronic incel.  Jesus Christ, your own source refutes you.  And still no link to violence.

FAIL.

You get addicted to the feeling of it being produced ! I'll give you an example: nobody likes chewing tobacco, it smells disgusting. But people get addicted to "the feeling it produces after being chewed" !! you get addicted to the rush it gives you; the light-headedness it gives you for a minute or two.

You know nothing about addiction!

Quote:You did so say that it causes mutations to the brain.  Regardless, an article about what addiction to porn does tells us nothing about what addiction to sex does.

And yes, there is plenty of porn that doesn't involve sex.  Idiot.

FAIL.

Sex and watching porn do involve the same process of "simulation of private parts" and both end with the same conclusion ! 
Just like a teenager being raised every day to shoot guns in video games; in battlefields they will be "more ready" than a person who never played games. 

And what is this "sexless porn" you've been watching ! I'm sure it's a scam !

That's nice. No matter how much you ignorantly blather, dopamine is not an addictive chemical, pleasure by itself doesn't lead to addiction, neither lead to aggression and violence, porn and sex still don't have the same effects, nor does sex cause brain mutations or lead to homosexuality.

You are just wrong, wrong, wrong. The only thing you're demonstrating is how buttfuckingly stupid you are.

FAIL, FAIL, FAIL, FAIL.

(October 24, 2021 at 8:51 am)Nomad Wrote:

(October 23, 2021 at 9:24 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote: I don't understand. Big brother is simply voyerism as far as I could tell from that few minutes I once watched it. That set bar for me. I do not watch any form of so-called 'reality television' because there's no such thing and because it embarrasses me to see people humiliated.

It's my position that the christian churches (at least) are preoccupied with sex because it's a powerful form of social control.  The church has always been about control and guilt.

The original Big Brother from Nineteen Eighty-Four.  There's quite a lot written in that book about the Party's obsession with controlling sex, and why.  Religions, by and large, do the same kind of thing as described in the book.

 Oh, silly old me. I took the reference as contemporary.

Of Course I've read 1984 and seen both films. ( The first one is better imo) In the book, Smith's girlfriend Julia is a member of the anti sex league. In the IT age that kind of control doesn't seem as fanciful.

Seems we were making the same point. 

(October 24, 2021 at 4:44 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote:

(October 24, 2021 at 8:51 am)Nomad Wrote: The original Big Brother from Nineteen Eighty-Four.  There's quite a lot written in that book about the Party's obsession with controlling sex, and why.  Religions, by and large, do the same kind of thing as described in the book.

 Oh, silly old me. I took the reference as contemporary.

Of Course I've read 1984 and seen both films. ( The first one is better imo) In the book, Smith's girlfriend Julia is a member of the anti sex league. In the IT age that kind of control doesn't seem as fanciful.

Seems we were making the same point. 

Don't worry I was drunkish at the time and being unusually laconic. But the point in the book that by making people frustrated and unable to access their natural proclivities is a great way to control them in other areas is one that has been found by many authoritarian groups down the years.

(October 23, 2021 at 7:58 pm)Nomad Wrote: Christianity is obsessed with sex for the same reason as Big Brother obsessed about it.

I would say that it has more to do with our animal instincts than anything else.
Think of male gorillas fighting. The big strong one beats the rest and gets the females.
Think of deer fighting each other over a single female.
Think of lions fighting each other over a single female.
Rooster and hens.
This same pattern can be observed again and again in various species.

Whether it is about judaism, christianity, islam, mormonism (and probably a whole lot of other cultures and their religions), the priest plays the role of the guy in control, the guy who makes the rules. The priest might even claim that the rules come from the higher being and anyone who is against the priest or the rule, will get smashed by the gods.

Guys don’t want other guys to fuck their females. Guys tend to want multiple females.
So, the priest might decide to which guy the young girl gets transferred to. It is possible that there is an excess of females, so some guys might get a few wives.

By extension, it has been decided in judaism that the daughter is the property of the father until she gets married. Then, she belongs to the guy.
You can find this in their rules.
1. “Thou salt not covet another guys donkey, cats, house, wife.”
2. If a guy rapes a girl who is not married, he has to pay the father 50 shekels of silver and the guy has to marry her.
She is considered damaged goods. She is no longer a virgin. No other man would want her.
3. There is the story of Lot offering his 2 virgin daughters to be fucked by the mob that is outside his house.
The daughters don’t have a choice in this. They are just property to be traded off.
Lot was defending the 2 angels that were in his house by giving to the mob his 2 daughters.
Lot cares a lot about the well being of the 2 angels.
4. There is a part that says that over every woman in a household, there is his husband and over the husband, the boss is Jesus.
The woman is on the lowest level of the ladder.


Without a priest or some kind of law maker, the guys would probably fight each other to the death or severely injure each other.

How many women have been killed/injured bc they wanted to divorce their husband?
How many young girls have been killed/injured bc they wanted to leave their boyfriend?

We have to accept it. In general, it is the men who are more violent and resort to executing their ex-lover.

(October 25, 2021 at 12:03 pm)Nomad Wrote:

(October 24, 2021 at 4:44 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote:  Oh, silly old me. I took the reference as contemporary.

Of Course I've read 1984 and seen both films. ( The first one is better imo) In the book, Smith's girlfriend Julia is a member of the anti sex league. In the IT age that kind of control doesn't seem as fanciful.

Seems we were making the same point. 

Don't worry I was drunkish at the time and being unusually laconic.  But the point in the book that by making people frustrated and unable to access their natural proclivities is a great way to control them in other areas is one that has been found by many authoritarian groups down the years.

 My dear old mum advised me " Never write letters or such when you're drunk or angry"  I learned the hard way over many years. So much easier to fuck up with the immediacy of the internet. But, your post seems  lucid enough to me. However, 'laconic' isn't a word which popped into my head.

(October 25, 2021 at 6:25 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote:

(October 25, 2021 at 12:03 pm)Nomad Wrote: Don't worry I was drunkish at the time and being unusually laconic.  But the point in the book that by making people frustrated and unable to access their natural proclivities is a great way to control them in other areas is one that has been found by many authoritarian groups down the years.

 My dear old mum advised me " Never write letters or such when you're drunk or angry"  I learned the hard way over many years. So much easier to fuck up with the immediacy of the internet. But, your post seems  lucid enough to me. However, 'laconic' isn't a word which popped into my head.

For me it is in that instance. While I'm not always the most chatty in person, on paper I am very prolix. Oh and I like typing drunk every so often, my spelling tends to be slightly better because I'm trying to concentrate, and I tend to be less circumspect. When I've the beer in, I don't hold back on what I really think.

(October 20, 2021 at 9:48 am)Ahriman Wrote: God would rather you masturbate than have sex with strange females. If you can't find a consistent sex partner, you're better off going solo. This is not unjustified.......the more females you have sex with, the greater your risk of getting a disease, plus getting a bunch of females pregnant would be a nightmare. God is just watching out for you, when He wants to "restrict" your sex life. Although you're free to do what you want. I know a lot of people would rather act like monkeys than dignified human beings.

You presented 2 problems:
1. risk of getting a disease
2. getting a bunch of females pregnant

and you stated a goal that the god has
1. God is just watching out for you

So, that goal can be achieved by eliminating diseases or not creating the diseases or making humans immune to those microorganisms + viruses.
Why has this god been able to solve problem #1?

For the pregnancy, why not just offer a switch? Let's say the switch is somewhere on your left shoulder.
When you turn off the switch, the woman doesn't release an egg.
A man can have a switch as well. When he turns off the switch, no sperm cells would be released.
Why has this god been able to solve problem #2?