(February 6, 2022 at 8:34 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(January 23, 2022 at 8:48 pm)Lobster Lover Wrote: I think it was the third Matrix.

There is no third Matrix movie.

Also, there is no second Matrix movie.

Furthermore, this new Matrix movie coming out... does not exist.

[That's how I have come to see things anyway. Matrix is an excellent movie, but a failed franchise. The Animatrix was good. But that's about it.]

Nah, for me the non-existent third was my favourite (please don't kill me )... I just loved the all out war of it... especially the scene with the mechs surrounded by swarms of Sentinals. In contrast I felt the first was too, I don't know, individual... and the second, somewhere inbetween the two, the least memorable and my least favourite. Don't get me wrong, seeing the first Matrix for the first time, it was cool and original, (and my teacher at college made us watch it in class, ostensibly to learn about VR... but I think we all knew otherwise ), but for rewatchability I much prefer Revolutions.

It was a similar feeling for me with Star Trek; my favourite series of that being DS9, precisely because it's more of a long term, persistent story, as compared to TNG or Voyager which are more based on lots of individual self-contained stories. And within DS9 again it was the last series that interested me most... more all out war. So I guess I'm a sucker for that.

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(February 6, 2022 at 10:58 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Okay, after looking over the list of films eligible for the Project, I realised I spun the wheel for the wrong genre. So, next week's going to be a youth film, and it's going to be Bible Town, not that Joe Piscopo special.

What is this Project anyway, that's making you watch through all these unknown b-movies? Always been kinda curious... combined with a feeling of 'rather you than me'

(February 7, 2022 at 11:33 pm)emjay Wrote:

(February 6, 2022 at 8:34 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: There is no third Matrix movie.

Also, there is no second Matrix movie.

Furthermore, this new Matrix movie coming out... does not exist.

[That's how I have come to see things anyway. Matrix is an excellent movie, but a failed franchise. The Animatrix was good. But that's about it.]

Nah, for me the non-existent third was my favourite (please don't kill me )... I just loved the all out war of it... especially the scene with the mechs surrounded by swarms of Sentinals. In contrast I felt the first was too, I don't know, individual... and the second, somewhere inbetween the two, the least memorable and my least favourite. Don't get me wrong, seeing the first Matrix for the first time, it was cool and original, (and my teacher at college made us watch it in class, ostensibly to learn about VR... but I think we all knew otherwise ), but for rewatchability I much prefer Revolutions.

It was a similar feeling for me with Star Trek; my favourite series of that being DS9, precisely because it's more of a long term, persistent story, as compared to TNG or Voyager which are more based on lots of individual self-contained stories. And within DS9 again it was the last series that interested me most... more all out war. So I guess I'm a sucker for that.

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(February 6, 2022 at 10:58 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Okay, after looking over the list of films eligible for the Project, I realised I spun the wheel for the wrong genre. So, next week's going to be a youth film, and it's going to be Bible Town, not that Joe Piscopo special.

What is this Project anyway, that's making you watch through all these unknown b-movies? Always been kinda curious... combined with a feeling of 'rather you than me'

DS9 is my favourite Trek series.

As far as I'm concerned, the Jar Jar Abrams "Trek" doesn't exist. The movies I saw were absolute crap. The only good thing in them was Karl Urban as McCoy.

I've been watching Discovery, though it can be hard to follow at times, especially season two.

(February 7, 2022 at 11:33 pm)emjay Wrote:

(February 6, 2022 at 10:58 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Okay, after looking over the list of films eligible for the Project, I realised I spun the wheel for the wrong genre. So, next week's going to be a youth film, and it's going to be Bible Town, not that Joe Piscopo special.

What is this Project anyway, that's making you watch through all these unknown b-movies? Always been kinda curious... combined with a feeling of 'rather you than me'

A while back, I decided to give myself a proper New Year's Resolution: watch one of the worst films of all time every week. And we're not simply talking bad movies like The Room or Plan 9 From Outer Space. I'm talking the worst of the worst. Specifically movies TVTropes considers "So Bad It's Horrible." And there's a lot there (and that's even counting the few movies I've exempted from the Project.) As in, this is the fourth year I've kept it up and there's still a long ways to go before the well runs dry; and several months before I run out of movies on proper streaming services.

It was inspired by one of the film blogs I follow, 366 Weird Movies, which had the dubious honour of canonising my all-time favourite film and the worst film I had ever seen up to that date. And also my realisation that the latter might not actually count as a film, due to consisting mostly of a spliced-in addition of another film so unrelated that not only could it be replaced with another film entirely, but certain prints actually did, and my decision to find out what the worst real movie ever made was. At this point, it's A Certain Sacrifice.

And why Deep Hurting? Well, I'll let Dr. Forrester and TV's Frank explain:



Surprisingly, only two of the films featured in the Project (The Beast of Yucca Flats and The Wild World of Batwoman) were actually on MST3K.

(February 8, 2022 at 12:40 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(February 7, 2022 at 11:33 pm)emjay Wrote: What is this Project anyway, that's making you watch through all these unknown b-movies? Always been kinda curious... combined with a feeling of 'rather you than me'

A while back, I decided to give myself a proper New Year's Resolution: watch one of the worst films of all time every week. And we're not simply talking bad movies like The Room or Plan 9 From Outer Space. I'm talking the worst of the worst. Specifically movies TVTropes considers "So Bad It's Horrible." And there's a lot there (and that's even counting the few movies I've exempted from the Project.) As in, this is the fourth year I've kept it up and there's still a long ways to go before the well runs dry; and several months before I run out of movies on proper streaming services.

It was inspired by one of the film blogs I follow, 366 Weird Movies, which had the dubious honour of canonising my all-time favourite film and the worst film I had ever seen up to that date. And also my realisation that the latter might not actually count as a film, due to consisting mostly of a spliced-in addition of another film so unrelated that not only could it be replaced with another film entirely, but certain prints actually did, and my decision to find out what the worst real movie ever made was. At this point, it's A Certain Sacrifice.

And why Deep Hurting? Well, I'll let Dr. Forrester and TV's Frank explain:



Surprisingly, only two of the films featured in the Project (The Beast of Yucca Flats and The Wild World of Batwoman) were actually on MST3K.

That's really awesome... really inspiring; both what you're doing and how long you've been doing it... but still 'rather you than me' Inspiring because it's expanding your horizons so much... ie I don't know about you, or you before you started doing this but for me, despite the wealth of choice on say Netflix, Prime, Spotify etc I find it really hard to pick something completely new to watch/listen to, and you'd be hard-pressed to see me ever pressing the 'surprise me' button on Netflix or listening to a random Spotify playlist it recommends to me, instead sticking with the familiar and only rarely venturing out very far beyond that, but I'm guessing that's very different for you, at least now after doing this for so long? Ie through this not only have you learnt how to roll the dice/spin the wheel on what you watch but also to live in the moment, accept what you've given, and try and find the joy in anything? As I said, still rather you than me in the specific case of worst films ever (but even with that I'm guessing you've come to enjoy it very much?, probably in some of those in-the-moment senses... finding hidden gems or nuggets of interest, and getting to play film critic etc), but in general it's something I'd really like to try, just to spin the wheel a bit more, on what genres or whatever I watch/listen to, forcing myself out of my comfort zone to expand my horizons a bit more. So yeah, keep up the good work and thanks for the inspiration

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(February 8, 2022 at 12:13 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(February 7, 2022 at 11:33 pm)emjay Wrote: Nah, for me the non-existent third was my favourite (please don't kill me )... I just loved the all out war of it... especially the scene with the mechs surrounded by swarms of Sentinals. In contrast I felt the first was too, I don't know, individual... and the second, somewhere inbetween the two, the least memorable and my least favourite. Don't get me wrong, seeing the first Matrix for the first time, it was cool and original, (and my teacher at college made us watch it in class, ostensibly to learn about VR... but I think we all knew otherwise ), but for rewatchability I much prefer Revolutions.

It was a similar feeling for me with Star Trek; my favourite series of that being DS9, precisely because it's more of a long term, persistent story, as compared to TNG or Voyager which are more based on lots of individual self-contained stories. And within DS9 again it was the last series that interested me most... more all out war. So I guess I'm a sucker for that.

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What is this Project anyway, that's making you watch through all these unknown b-movies? Always been kinda curious... combined with a feeling of 'rather you than me'

DS9 is my favourite Trek series.

As far as I'm concerned, the Jar Jar Abrams "Trek" doesn't exist.  The movies I saw were absolute crap.  The only good thing in them was Karl Urban as McCoy.

I've been watching Discovery, though it can be hard to follow at times, especially season two.

Yeah, with DS9 I just love the interplay between the different races, the loyal Jem Hadar, the paranoid Founders, the, I suppose, often fence-sitting Cardassians, etc and the changing alliances between them.

Trek doesn't exist for me either but only because I've never heard of it, until now I think I've only watched one Star Trek film, possibly two, but the main one I remember is 'The Voyage Home' (with the whales)... I do like that film, especially when they land on modern day (or then modern day) earth... so like Spock on the bus etc As for the modern series, I don't really know much about them, or have any particular desire to see them. Basically, I'm not a trekkie... I tend to watch Star Trek somewhat under duress (not a lot of duress, don't get me wrong... I usually enjoy it once I start watching it... but it just takes a bit to get me going, and I did like it a lot more while I was growing up)... same with events; I've been to several Star Trek conventions/events, often in the costume of Odo, as lent to me by my friend, but always slightly under duress Ie there as a plus one for my friend, who is a massive trekkie, and also helping his friends, who set up and run some of these events for charity. So I was mainly there behind the stalls instead of in front of them, but one time I did wander off and get to actually meet my favourite character from DS9, Odo - the late Rene Auberjonois. He was such a nice guy, and so down to earth, completely different than Colm Meaney who was right next to him, and a total diva as far I could tell - didn't even want to go meet him on principle. So yeah, when I was talking to Rene, I wasn't even in costume, at that time feeling a little less confident than usual and having a break from it, but he talked me into going and putting it back on just to take a picture with him, which he then did and gave me for free, so I felt kind of honoured.

Watched 'Cinderella Man' again. Other than being a little unflattering regarding Max Baer, it's a truly great film, start to finish. 

Boru

Hawaii (1966) - wow! it is such a joy to watch a movie concentrated on story, characters, and acting. Surprisingly for the time, the movie is about the clash of religions and even gods.

Max von Sydow plays an idealistic 19th-century preacher who is going to Hawaii to spread Christianity. Being there, he has inner conflicts as he faces bigotry and racism Christianity installs in preachers towards people of other religions, only to eventually become open to their beliefs. But then, in the end, he discovers that he was used, that he was nothing but a pawn as Christianity is just there to exploit those people and their lands, and even enslave them.

This week in the Deep Hurting Project was going to be Bible Town, but apparently that one left Tubi in between February 1 and today. That said, there is yet another movie from the makers of this one still on there. And the bad news is... it's a sequel to Finding Jesus. The originally-titled Finding Jesus 2. Fortunately, it's only about 40 minutes long, according to Tubi. However, I expect it to feel a lot longer.

• So, the premise of the Finding Jesus involves Muggles and Joy swimming to their school, where they meet with Professor Shark, who ends up putting them on some "adventures" that are supposed to teach them some lesson that shoehorns Christianity in there. And lather, rinse, repeat every nine or so minutes for as long as the movie's supposed to last because, as far as I can tell, it's just a collection of episodes of a TV show that was never given a proper airing because the networks presumably have some standards and even by the low standards of Christian propaganda, it's utter shit.
  
• Yeah, those corals were so cool we can't actually see them.
  
• And now for the obvious question, how the fuck can fish read the Bible underwater? The fact that the animation's so repetitive is really making it clearer.
  
• NEVER END AN EPISODE ON A LAUGH THAT SHIT AGAIN.
  
• Are they actually going to do some world-building and show how the fish's church is supposed to work? Of course they're not. That would require putting some effort into it.
  
• 10:38. Professor Shark goes into detail about how sharks are the only fish that have the necessary membranes to blink or close their eyes. And yet they have Joy blinking at that point. Hell, it turns out both Joy and Muggles blink. I never felt the need to notice this blatant nit-pick with the previous film, what with it being so ubiquitous, but they just went out of their way to point out that they not only shouldn't be able to blink, but don't and they defied it while they're talking about it.
  
  
  
• What better place to meet a great pal than at a worship gathering? Well, besides any other place where people share a common interest.
  
• So, the definition of prayer is restricted to sea creatures? I guess I'm exempt!
  
• Prayer is always free. Just remember to tithe 10% of your income. 
  
• The name Boo Cakes is never going to not remind me of Bukakke.
  
• So, basically, just floating in place just counts as rowdy playing? Only in a movie where your animation is this lazy can this count. Hey, you remember how most every show that stars sea creatures that isn't named Spongebob Squarepants has freedom of movement in all three dimensions? You know you've fucked up when Shark Tale is leagues above your horseshit:
  
  
  
• Okay, maybe I've been focusing on the lazy animation, but maybe the fact that this stationary argument counts as rowdy playing implies an absurd level of repression.
  
• Is the name "Scary Henry" or "Scary Harry"? Because someone seems to have gotten the name wrong somewhere. And his name still makes as little sense as it did the first time. Maybe less, since he doesn't seem to have any negative emotions. Maybe it's because it looks like his voice actor sounds like the last place contestant in a Vincent Price impression contest?
  
• Also, the crab counts as a deep ocean fish now.
  
• Fuck, they just flipped a coin and that's how they chose whether his name is "Scary Henry" or "Scary Harry", isn't it?
  
• Mrs. Whateley? Was she related to the guy from "The Dunwich Horror?" Is this how Cthulhu's supposed to take over the world? Make shit like this and break people's brains that way?
  
• Hopefully, the fact that this little compilation of episodes took only 40 minutes is a sign that there aren't any more episodes of this shit.
  

And next week, the genre is Action/Adventure, and the movie to take in is (hopefully) Rollerball 2002 (aka Why the fuck is Jean Reno in two films bad enough for the Deep Hurting Project?)