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RE: Grand Rapids Mi Shooting
April 29, 2022 at 11:27 am
(April 29, 2022 at 11:22 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Lawfare by concern trolling. That's the angle, it's garbage, but if it's all you have... it's what you'll run with. That's why character assassination is the routine first step when any cop ever murders anyone. Yup he needs to be a monster so the white knights look less aweful
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RE: Grand Rapids Mi Shooting
April 29, 2022 at 11:32 am
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(April 29, 2022 at 11:20 am)Helios Wrote: Or like the actual lawyer points out it has nothing at all to do with why he resisted arrest and he was simply gunned down over a license plate.
I'm going to have to side with Biker here. The fact that the person was wanted is a clear reason why he was fighting to resist arrest - not "oh, scary evil cops, I must run!"
Biker already agreed that it does not excuse the cop discharging his weapon.
You are correct - the Right will try to demonize the victim to make it seem like they "deserved it". Meanwhile, the Left tries to make the person an angel normal citizen gunned down for a license plate. Both are bullshit.
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RE: Grand Rapids Mi Shooting
April 29, 2022 at 11:42 am
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I'm completely unconcerned with whether or not a person killed by the cops was an angel.
Let's try an analogy. If there were a mcworker jizzing in the special sauce, would we only find that concerning if it passed some angels lips? Probably not. Putting people on trial for their own deaths either in the court, or court of public opinion, is wildly absurd. It's also pointless, the man is dead. Gonna charge him, make him serve time post mortem? Meanwhile..there's a still-breathing still-at-large killer out there.....which is something that does concern me.
Soooo...when do we run that guy down then shoot him. That is how this goes, is it not?
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RE: Grand Rapids Mi Shooting
April 29, 2022 at 11:46 am
(April 29, 2022 at 11:32 am)HappySkeptic Wrote: (April 29, 2022 at 11:20 am)Helios Wrote: Or like the actual lawyer points out it has nothing at all to do with why he resisted arrest and he was simply gunned down over a license plate.
I'm going to have to side with Biker here. The fact that the person was wanted is a clear reason why he was fighting to resist arrest - not "oh, scary evil cops, I must run!"
Biker already agreed that it does not excuse the cop discharging his weapon.
You are correct - the Right will try to demonize the victim to make it seem like they "deserved it". Meanwhile, the Left tries to make the person an angel normal citizen gunned down for a license plate. Both are bullshit. You are free to side with who you will. But it remains just as likely his resistance had nothing to with the domestic abuse and he felt legit threatened by the cop and he was just gunned down over his license plate.
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RE: Grand Rapids Mi Shooting
April 29, 2022 at 11:46 am
(April 29, 2022 at 11:42 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm completely unconcerned with whether or not a person killed by the cops was an angel.
Let's try an analogy. If there were a mcworker jizzing in the special sauce, would we only find that concerning if it passed some angels lips? Probably not. Putting people on trial for their own deaths either in the court, or court of public opinion, is wildly absurd. It's also pointless, the man is dead. Gonna charge him, make him serve time post mortem? Meanwhile..there's a still breathing killer out there.....which is something that does concern me. True 
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RE: Grand Rapids Mi Shooting
May 10, 2022 at 7:08 am
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AND - Saint Lyoyo's autopsy showed he had a blood alcohol level 3 times the legal limit.....
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/m...668154002/
The lawyer for the family is sticking to the story that he was afraid of the police.....
Yeah - afraid he was going to jail for DUI, and then he could get an extended stay for the assault on his girlfriend......
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RE: Grand Rapids Mi Shooting
May 10, 2022 at 8:41 am
I wasn't aware that being drunk was a capital offense outside of islamic shitholes.
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RE: Grand Rapids Mi Shooting
May 10, 2022 at 8:51 am
(May 10, 2022 at 8:41 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I wasn't aware that being drunk was a capital offense outside of islamic shitholes.
Leave it to you to come up with such a fucknut stupid ass conclusion...
Keep on being you...
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RE: Grand Rapids Mi Shooting
May 11, 2022 at 12:23 am
Some promising results here
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/...cal-health
After the program began, according to the Marietta Police Department, jiujitsu-trained officers used Tasers in 54% of incidents involving the use of force, compared with a 77% usage rate among their untrained coworkers.
Elsewhere, data from the St. Paul Police Department in Minnesota – which kicked off a new training program rooted in jiujitsu in 2015 – reportedly has shown a similar trend, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press, with a 37 % reduction in use of force.
Marietta police say their data shows arrest-related injuries among officers that required a visit to the ER or with a doctor – like sprains, broken ribs or wounds that needed stitches – declined by 48% after the mandatory training program was in effect. And in 2020, per the department, suspects were more than twice as likely to suffer an injury resulting in medical clearance if they were involved in a use-of-force incident with an officer who was not jiujitsu-trained.
In Marietta, new police hires are required to attend a minimum of one BJJ training session per week until they finish the academy and field training, which is about eight to nine months in total. In July of 2020, the department moved to allow all of its cops to participate. Officers can attend up to three classes per week for free and be paid for their time, with BJJ hours credited as defensive tactics training. About two-thirds of officers opted for the program, according to Marietta PD.
In Dallas, recruits and new officers in field training are required to log four hours per month at a local jiujitsu gym. Following their training, participation in BJJ is voluntary. But after plenty of positive feedback, Medlock says the department is considering “making it mandatory for every officer to train at least twice a month.”
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RE: Grand Rapids Mi Shooting
May 11, 2022 at 12:34 am
Marietta, Dallas, and St. Paul are not in Michigan.
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