Being that the most modern rendition of the hoomans are roughly 150,000 years old, and christianity and its closeted, cock loving deity are only 2,000ish, what happened to all the hoomans that came before the appearance of said cock loving master of the universe?

(May 3, 2023 at 9:32 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I'm like the scriptures: If you torture me enough, I'll say anything you want.

Taking it seriously (because isn't that what the afflicted want, for people to take this threat seriously...?)...it probably wouldn't have to get that far.  The mere suggestion of enhanced interrogation makes people super fucking talkative and compliant.  To my mind, that goes to the place, time, and aim of beliefs like this.  The people who came up with these gods (or these gods...taking it seriously..again...) weren't really interested in a genuine conversion.  They were interested in display under duress.  You didn't have to believe, you just had to say you did where everyone could hear.

I think that anyone who believes that the hell angle is a good approach for the unfaithful has lead a blessed life. No one whos ever been hurt believes that inflicting pain leads to real loyalty or assent, though they intuitively grasp how weak they are, and how effective strong violence would be at manufacturing compliance even when they as the subject disagreed.

Oh yes... put a gun to my head and I will tell you how much I truly believe, doesn't mean it's true though

Jesus foremost tried to inspire people with his own example. If all He was doing was shoving hell downs peoples throats, he wouldn't be Jesus...

His own example? We're talking about a guy who took money from widows to pal around the region with his bros opining on the value of bitches from other races.....

"Jesus" as the stories describe, was Glenn Greenwald. A gay as fuck fascist who was primarily interested in the success of the abrahamic master race. We can retcon the godman to be a champion of 21st century values...and we have.....but it's not true. The godman was..predictably, a "man" of his time. The character in the stories was in the business of shoving shit down peoples throats....by his magical displays....?

(May 3, 2023 at 12:04 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: His own example?  We're talking about a guy who took money from widows to pal around the region with his bros opining on the value of bitches from other races.....

"Jesus" as the stories describe, was Glenn Greenwald.  A gay as fuck fascist who was primarily interested in the success of the abrahamic master race.  We can retcon the godman to be a champion of 21st century values...and we have.....but it's not true.  The godman was..predictably, a "man" of his time.  The character in the stories was in the business of shoving shit down peoples throats....by his magical displays....?

If it was as bad as you say, people wouldn't worship Jesus for 2000 years. Jesus, the way he is described in the bible is a Saint. Thats why people like him so much. And I previosuly just wanted to point out that hell WASNT His most important msg.

Yes...they would, because "people" aren't nice. The man in the book is not described as a saint. He's merely claimed to be after the fact and in contradiction to the fact of his alleged actions and beliefs. If "jesus" came up today he'd be standing next to Bin Laden. No one, not even the christians™ agree with him, anymore.

Jesus, meek and mild, invented hell. Nothing else he ever had to say matters, because, as he told it, people who disagreed with him would be thrown in divine Gitmo, subject to godly enhanced interrogation, for all that amounts to.

"Jesus" is not..is......not...a permissive figure for our societies today. "Jesus" is some retrograde bullshit who will hurt you if you don't agree. Period. There's no rehabilitating christianity. It is what is is. It is what it's been for 2k years. Bluntly, chirstian belief....is evil. Full stop.

(May 3, 2023 at 12:25 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yes...they would, because "people" aren't nice.  The man in the book is not described as a saint. He's merely claimed to be after the fact and in contradiction to the fact of his alleged actions and beliefs.   If "jesus" came up today he'd be standing next to Bin Laden.  No one, not even the christians™ agree with him, anymore.

Jesus, meek and mild, invented hell.  Nothing else he ever had to say matters, because, as he told it, people who disagreed with him would be thrown in divine Gitmo, subject to godly enhanced interrogation, for all that amounts to.  

"Jesus" is not..is......not...a permissive figure for our societies today.   "Jesus" is some retrograde bullshit who will hurt you if you don't agree.  Period.  There's no rehabilitating christianity.  It is what is is.  It is what it's been for 2k years.  Bluntly, chirstian belief....is evil.  Full stop.

Feel you. God in the bible compares people to his treasured possesion, sheep, clay that he can shape in to whatever he wants. After reading those verses I regreted being born sometimes. I am being viewed as almost like a slave by God. Thats tough. Yet there isn't anything I can do.

Jesus while being a proud asshole, makes really beautiful verses as well. I can see while so many people like him because of it.

The concept of hell removes any ability for this schmuck to appeal to "free will".

atheists can not withstand this much pain.   so we should ban this schmuck.