(May 7, 2023 at 10:55 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(May 7, 2023 at 6:46 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:  I am a conspiracy theorist, technically, because I acknowledge  that people conspire together sometimes to do things. 

Not what the term means, though I have no doubt that you are a conspiracy theorist nevertheless.

For once, otoh, you manage to get something right.  There's just no need to fake shit that will happen anyway.

Indeed he's not even a very good one 

(May 8, 2023 at 6:20 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

And does the USA have the most mass shootings per capita? I've looked it up, and various sources give me different results. Some claim it's Macedonia that has the most mass shootings per capita, and some claim it's Norway that has the most mass shootings per capita. None of the sources, as far as I can see, claim that the US has the most mass shootings per capita.

Twelve miles from my house there was a mass shooting this weekend. Several killed and wounded, including a 5 year old who was shot in the neck and another young child found under his mother's dead body covered in her blood.

I don't give two shits about what the fuck is going on in Macedonia.

The mall where this shooting took place is somewhere my daughter and granddaughter could have been.

You used to just be a pest. Now you are a pain in the ass.

The US has the second most gun deaths per capita. We're not in the top ten for violent gun death. Our high numbers are mostly suicides. Mass shootings are a fraction of the minority that remains. Bigger or smaller depending on how you define a mass shooting, and infinitesimally small if you categorize domestic terrorism as it's own thing, rather than a subset. In fact, if you adjust for guns per capita, what you'll find is that americans are extremely responsible with guns compared to literally anyone.

Just like we weren't supposed to call them racists, we aren't supposed to call them terrorists, so we spin our wheels trying to solve gun problems, or magazine problems, or "inner city problems" - and nothing we do touches that number..because they're fucking terrorists.

@FlatAssembler 

1. Real-world experience demonstrates that gun control laws reduce the incidence of gun violence. When the US banned assault-type weapons, mass shootings dropped like a paralyzed falcon. When the ban expired, mass shootings increased. But it’s not just mass shootings: wherever and whenever access to firearms is restricted, gun violence of ALL types decreases. This is an observed fact, no subject to rational debate. No study needed.

2. Violent crime isn’t the same as gun crime.

3. This rubbish about ‘gun free zones’ is a red herring. A gun-free zone has bugger all to do with restrictions on gun ownership.

4. Again, I’m not going to re-chew Kleck’s study. All the points that need to have been made about it have already been made.

5. I am sick to death hearing about your linguistic studies.

6. Of COURSE having a mental illness is a good predictor of being a mass shooter. How can you sensibly argue that mass shooters are mentally healthy?

Boru

(May 8, 2023 at 12:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 6. Of COURSE having a mental illness is a good predictor of being a mass shooter. How can you sensibly argue that mass shooters are mentally healthy?

-Terrorist.

A small fraction of mentally-ill people will be a danger to others, with or without guns.

Assault rifles just make it really easy to kill lots of people, and feel like some invincible action hero while doing it.

(May 8, 2023 at 12:28 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(May 8, 2023 at 12:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 6. Of COURSE having a mental illness is a good predictor of being a mass shooter. How can you sensibly argue that mass shooters are mentally healthy?

-Terrorist.

In my personal experience, terrorists do not exhibit what I would call mental health.

Boru