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RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
July 23, 2023 at 2:17 pm (This post was last modified: July 23, 2023 at 2:20 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(July 23, 2023 at 2:01 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: I told the story because it was true and someone asked me to. I'm not a utilitarian.
Obviously you really are.
BTW, do you actually think that Jesus forced his preaching where he was not welcome ?
In no way are you imitating Christ.
You actually think you are good at this .... you are SO horrible, and full of pride. A truly dislikeable person.
You're creating a scandal. You will answer to Jebus for creating this scandal.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
July 23, 2023 at 2:19 pm
If this god of yours knows everything, there are NO chances. This god of yours, already knows the outcome. It knew it way back in the before everythings time.
This grand designer looked at its massively flawed plan, decides to go with it anyway, then gets all pissy when the consequences of ineptitude arise.
Real nice role model.
RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
July 23, 2023 at 2:44 pm
(July 23, 2023 at 2:02 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Hymn4n, if you're so intent on going to Hell and becoming a Damned Soul by your own free choice, nobody can do anything about it.
God has nearly 10 Billion Souls to be concerned about and He will not wait forever, for you or for anyone else. He will give everyone chances, then move on.
When did that rule go into effect? There's a time limit other than death?
RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
July 23, 2023 at 2:47 pm
(July 23, 2023 at 2:44 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(July 23, 2023 at 2:02 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Hymn4n, if you're so intent on going to Hell and becoming a Damned Soul by your own free choice, nobody can do anything about it.
God has nearly 10 Billion Souls to be concerned about and He will not wait forever, for you or for anyone else. He will give everyone chances, then move on.
When did that rule go into effect? There's a time limit other than death?
RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
July 23, 2023 at 2:47 pm
Also since when was gods attention span an issue last I checked he's supposed to be all-powerful and everywhere at once....
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
July 23, 2023 at 2:50 pm (This post was last modified: July 23, 2023 at 3:23 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(July 23, 2023 at 2:02 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Hymn4n, if you're so intent on going to Hell and becoming a Damned Soul by your own free choice, nobody can do anything about it.
God has nearly 10 Billion Souls to be concerned about and He will not wait forever, for you or for anyone else. He will give everyone chances, then move on.
LOL .... and LOL again. His poor god is not omnipotent, and is challenged by the amount of work it has.
I have never read this sort of stupid shit anywhere, anytime.
Not to worry Hymn4n.
As long as you honestly follow your conscience you are good.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church says you have the absolute right of freedom of conscience.
Despite the fact that NX gets a hard-on scaring people and pretending he's morally superior, the RCC absolutely says you can and MUST follow your conscience,
and in the end, will be saved. He's some sort of neurotic whose pride drives him, and he gets off scaring people.
My many friends in religion would be appalled by his behavior. Implicit Baptism of Desire was affirmed by the Council of Trent, and repeatedly thereafter.
He's nothing but a theological amateur. I know you don't, but don't buy his shit.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
July 23, 2023 at 2:52 pm (This post was last modified: July 23, 2023 at 2:55 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(July 23, 2023 at 2:47 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(July 23, 2023 at 2:44 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: When did that rule go into effect? There's a time limit other than death?
He makes up shit as he goes along.
Do not look at the man behind the curtain.
"Love is patient, love is kind ... but get a move on. God is fuckin busy".
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
July 23, 2023 at 2:58 pm (This post was last modified: July 23, 2023 at 2:58 pm by Nishant Xavier.)
You've obviously done no serious spiritual reading, Bucky, yet you pretend you know better about Catholic Christianity than esteemed Doctors of the Church like St. Alphonsus Liguori. Here is what St. Alphonsus wrote on the folly of persisting in mortal sin and hoping for pardon later on: https://www.olrl.org/snt_docs/num_sins.shtml God of course does not want this to happen, He wants people to turn to Him and be happy forever.
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8. O folly of sinners! If you purchase a house, you spare no pains to get all the securities necessary to guard against the loss of your money; if you take medicine, you are careful to assure yourself that it cannot injure you; if you pass over a river, you cautiously avoid all danger of falling into it: and for a transitory enjoyment, for the gratification of revenge, for a beastly pleasure, which lasts but a moment, you risk your eternal salvation, saying: I will go to confession after I commit this sin. And when, I ask, are you to go to confession? You say: On tomorrow. But who promises you tomorrow? Who assures you that you shall have time for confession, and that God will not deprive you of life as He has deprived so many others, in the act of sin? "Diem tenes" says St. Augustine, "qui horam non tenes." You cannot be certain of living for another hour, and you say: I will go to confession tomorrow. Listen to the words of St. Gregory: "He who has promised pardon to penitents, has not promised tomorrow to sinners" – Hom. 12 in Evan. God has promised pardon to all who repent; but He has not promised to wait until tomorrow for those who insult Him. Perhaps God will give you time for repentance, perhaps He will not. But, should He not give it, what shall become of your soul? In the meantime, for the sake of a miserable pleasure, you lose the grace of God and expose yourself to the danger of being lost forever.
9. Would you, for such transient enjoyments, risk your money, your honor, your possessions, your liberty, and your life? No, you would not. How then does it happen that, for a miserable gratification, you lose your soul, Heaven, and God? Tell me: do you believe that Heaven, Hell, eternity, are truths of faith? Do you believe that, if you die in sin, you are lost forever? Oh! what temerity, what folly is it, to condemn yourself voluntarily to an eternity of torments with the hope of afterwards reversing the sentence of your condemnation! "Nemo," says St. Augustine, "sub spe salutis vult aegrotare." No one can be found so foolish as to take poison with the hope of preventing its deadly effects by adopting the ordinary remedies. And you will condemn yourself to Hell, saying that you expect to be afterwards preserved from it. O folly! which, in conformity with the divine threats, has brought, and brings every day, so many to Hell. "Thou hast trusted in thy wickedness, and evil shall come upon thee, and thou shalt not know the rising thereof" – Isa. 47:10, 11. You have sinned, trusting rashly in the divine mercy: the punishment of your guilt shall fall suddenly upon you, and you shall not know from whence it comes. What do you say? What resolution do you make? If, after this sermon, you do not firmly resolve to give yourself to God, I weep over you and regard you as lost.
RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
July 23, 2023 at 3:01 pm
(July 23, 2023 at 2:58 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: You've obviously done no serious spiritual reading, Bucky, yet you pretend you know better about Catholic Christianity than esteemed Doctors of the Church like St. Alphonsus Liguori. Here is what St. Alphonsus wrote on the folly of persisting in mortal sin and hoping for pardon later on: https://www.olrl.org/snt_docs/num_sins.shtml God of course does not want this to happen, He wants people to turn to Him and be happy forever.
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8. O folly of sinners! If you purchase a house, you spare no pains to get all the securities necessary to guard against the loss of your money; if you take medicine, you are careful to assure yourself that it cannot injure you; if you pass over a river, you cautiously avoid all danger of falling into it: and for a transitory enjoyment, for the gratification of revenge, for a beastly pleasure, which lasts but a moment, you risk your eternal salvation, saying: I will go to confession after I commit this sin. And when, I ask, are you to go to confession? You say: On tomorrow. But who promises you tomorrow? Who assures you that you shall have time for confession, and that God will not deprive you of life as He has deprived so many others, in the act of sin? "Diem tenes" says St. Augustine, "qui horam non tenes." You cannot be certain of living for another hour, and you say: I will go to confession tomorrow. Listen to the words of St. Gregory: "He who has promised pardon to penitents, has not promised tomorrow to sinners" – Hom. 12 in Evan. God has promised pardon to all who repent; but He has not promised to wait until tomorrow for those who insult Him. Perhaps God will give you time for repentance, perhaps He will not. But, should He not give it, what shall become of your soul? In the meantime, for the sake of a miserable pleasure, you lose the grace of God and expose yourself to the danger of being lost forever.
9. Would you, for such transient enjoyments, risk your money, your honor, your possessions, your liberty, and your life? No, you would not. How then does it happen that, for a miserable gratification, you lose your soul, Heaven, and God? Tell me: do you believe that Heaven, Hell, eternity, are truths of faith? Do you believe that, if you die in sin, you are lost forever? Oh! what temerity, what folly is it, to condemn yourself voluntarily to an eternity of torments with the hope of afterwards reversing the sentence of your condemnation! "Nemo," says St. Augustine, "sub spe salutis vult aegrotare." No one can be found so foolish as to take poison with the hope of preventing its deadly effects by adopting the ordinary remedies. And you will condemn yourself to Hell, saying that you expect to be afterwards preserved from it. O folly! which, in conformity with the divine threats, has brought, and brings every day, so many to Hell. "Thou hast trusted in thy wickedness, and evil shall come upon thee, and thou shalt not know the rising thereof" – Isa. 47:10, 11. You have sinned, trusting rashly in the divine mercy: the punishment of your guilt shall fall suddenly upon you, and you shall not know from whence it comes. What do you say? What resolution do you make? If, after this sermon, you do not firmly resolve to give yourself to God, I weep over you and regard you as lost.
RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
July 23, 2023 at 3:07 pm (This post was last modified: July 23, 2023 at 3:17 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(July 23, 2023 at 2:58 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: You've obviously done no serious spiritual reading, Bucky, yet you pretend you know better about Catholic Christianity than esteemed Doctors of the Church like St. Alphonsus Liguori. Here is what St. Alphonsus wrote on the folly of persisting in mortal sin and hoping for pardon later on: https://www.olrl.org/snt_docs/num_sins.shtml God of course does not want this to happen, He wants people to turn to Him and be happy forever.
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8. O folly of sinners! If you purchase a house, you spare no pains to get all the securities necessary to guard against the loss of your money; if you take medicine, you are careful to assure yourself that it cannot injure you; if you pass over a river, you cautiously avoid all danger of falling into it: and for a transitory enjoyment, for the gratification of revenge, for a beastly pleasure, which lasts but a moment, you risk your eternal salvation, saying: I will go to confession after I commit this sin. And when, I ask, are you to go to confession? You say: On tomorrow. But who promises you tomorrow? Who assures you that you shall have time for confession, and that God will not deprive you of life as He has deprived so many others, in the act of sin? "Diem tenes" says St. Augustine, "qui horam non tenes." You cannot be certain of living for another hour, and you say: I will go to confession tomorrow. Listen to the words of St. Gregory: "He who has promised pardon to penitents, has not promised tomorrow to sinners" – Hom. 12 in Evan. God has promised pardon to all who repent; but He has not promised to wait until tomorrow for those who insult Him. Perhaps God will give you time for repentance, perhaps He will not. But, should He not give it, what shall become of your soul? In the meantime, for the sake of a miserable pleasure, you lose the grace of God and expose yourself to the danger of being lost forever.
9. Would you, for such transient enjoyments, risk your money, your honor, your possessions, your liberty, and your life? No, you would not. How then does it happen that, for a miserable gratification, you lose your soul, Heaven, and God? Tell me: do you believe that Heaven, Hell, eternity, are truths of faith? Do you believe that, if you die in sin, you are lost forever? Oh! what temerity, what folly is it, to condemn yourself voluntarily to an eternity of torments with the hope of afterwards reversing the sentence of your condemnation! "Nemo," says St. Augustine, "sub spe salutis vult aegrotare." No one can be found so foolish as to take poison with the hope of preventing its deadly effects by adopting the ordinary remedies. And you will condemn yourself to Hell, saying that you expect to be afterwards preserved from it. O folly! which, in conformity with the divine threats, has brought, and brings every day, so many to Hell. "Thou hast trusted in thy wickedness, and evil shall come upon thee, and thou shalt not know the rising thereof" – Isa. 47:10, 11. You have sinned, trusting rashly in the divine mercy: the punishment of your guilt shall fall suddenly upon you, and you shall not know from whence it comes. What do you say? What resolution do you make? If, after this sermon, you do not firmly resolve to give yourself to God, I weep over you and regard you as lost.
As usual you demonstrate your ignorance of the faith.
"Judge not, lest ye be judged"
According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, there are 3 requirements for mortal sin.
In order for mortal sin to occur the person has to in good conscience assent to and understand that :
Its subject matter must be grave. ...
It must be committed with full knowledge (and awareness) of the sinful action and the gravity of the offense.
It must be committed with deliberate and complete consent
Your St. Alphonse did not know the state of ANYONE'S conscience and neither do you. GOD ALONE knows.
YOU cannot judge and neither can anyone else, other than your God, in your system.
You really need to start from square one, and study Catholicism from the very simplest concepts.
God alone knows if anyone gives "complete consent" as even the most stupid beginning Catholic knows.
Your ignorance is scandalous. You cannot judge anyone.
But again thanks for demonstrating what a hate-filled patronizing asshole you really are.
According to your church, if people honestly do not buy your rubbish, they are saved anyway. Stop trying to scare people, jerk.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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