(July 24, 2023 at 5:56 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Because you need Eternal Happiness from God, my friend.

If that's what you really believe we need, perhaps prayer and reflection would help you be more effective at convincing someone.

(July 24, 2023 at 11:43 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: You have no reason to maliciously slander me like that, but of course you're not bound to the Christian Code of Ethics.

I've noticed that Christians don't seem to be particularly bound by the 'Christian Code of Ethics' either. I assume it does not include any advice on arguing in good faith?

To be an great Christian you have to be an awful human

(July 25, 2023 at 3:06 am)Deesse23 Wrote:

(July 24, 2023 at 11:18 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Now, let's take some "definitions" of Atheism that have been proffered on this thread:

Helios: "(A): I lack belief in the theistic claim there is a god 

(T) I claim there is a god"

Your statement is not about objective reality, but a subjective opinion, hence the "I"s in both.

No, his statement is a statement about objective reality. He does, in FACT, not believe in a a god. It is an "opinion" about reality.
Just as yours is an opinion too. In your opinion, a god is there, and its a FACT that you made this claim (that you believe this).

No. Bad analysis. "I" is the subject (not a "subjective" concept) in the sentence. 
I  is not subjective, unless you're a Solipsist. Whether it is an opinion or not is irrelevant. 
The discussion is about what each of them hold in their consciousness concerning the concept of the gods. 
The dismissal of the concept as having no value for even consideration, and the positive claim that not only is the concept considered, but affirmed,  is vastly different, by orders of magnitude.  

No points for you today.

(July 25, 2023 at 12:43 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(July 24, 2023 at 5:56 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Because you need Eternal Happiness from God, my friend.

If that's what you really believe we need, perhaps prayer and reflection would help you be more effective at convincing someone.

That's a projection of his needs. Life where he is must not be very fulfilling. 

We already will have exactly what he gets, according to his cult. 
Just follow your conscience. It's in his Catechism.

(July 24, 2023 at 5:53 am)no one Wrote: Again nishy, if your god does not need anything from you, why are you here?

To proselytize, in the form of walls of text. Literally nothing more.

(July 23, 2023 at 11:58 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: So let's debate this. 

Anarchism is a system of government though it says it "is no system of government" at all. It doesn't get to win by default by saying that. It must be show that it is the true and best government system. Similarly, Atheism comes under Religous Systems. It is not excused from the obligations of showing it is the true and best form of religion or religious opinion. It must also adduce solid and weighty evidence in its favor to be taken seriously.

Thus, Dr. Craig rightly defends two propositions in most of his debates (1) There are Good Reasons to think (Christian) Theism is true. (2) There are no Good Reasons to think Atheism is true. And then gives evidence under either point. What evidence can Atheists offer to think Atheism is True?

Atheism is nothing more, than NOT being convinced that gods exist*.

Theists make the claim that at least one god exists, I simply am unconvinced of their claim.

As soon as theists can meet their burden of proof for their claim that a god exists, I will no longer be an atheist.

How can my position be a religion?

Time to trot out a couple of clichés:

Saying atheism is a religion, is like saying bald is a hair color.
Or, not collecting stamps is a hobby.

*Of course, some atheists take this even further, and make the claim that no gods exist, in which case they have adopted the burden of proof. But even then, it is still not a religion.

Atheism is not a religion. Atheists don't have to tithe. We don't have to pay to play. Checkmate theists.

(July 24, 2023 at 5:56 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Because you need Eternal Happiness from God, my friend.

Do you have the power to unilaterally make that happen?  No?  Then shaddup, mortal.  Your writings are a disincentive that harms your cause rather than helping it.  You're in love with your church and in love with the sound of your own voice, and disrespectful of your audience.

If you truly believe in your cause, delete all your Internet presence, resign from your day job, and devote the rest of your life to private, fervent prayer for the salvation of all humanity.

“Atheism is not a religion.  Atheists don't have to tithe.  We don't have to pay to play.  Checkmate theists.”


We also have sex like no one is watching. King me theist!