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(July 28, 2023 at 5:44 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Here is Wiki on Silvapethicus now: "Sivapithecus (lit. 'Shiva's Ape') (syn: Ramapithecus) is a genus of extinct apes. Fossil remains of animals now assigned to this genus, dated from 12.2 million years old[1] in the Miocene, have been found since the 19th century in the Siwalik Hills of the Indian subcontinent as well as in Kutch. Any one of the species in this genus may have been the ancestor to the modern orangutans.
Some early discoveries were given the separate names Ramapithecus (Rama's Ape) and Bramapithecus (Brahma's Ape), and were thought to be possible ancestors of humans." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sivapithecus
Yup, these were not ancestors to humans, but rather ancestors to orangutans. I pity those who insist on believing these Apes are their fathers.
Your incomprehension is painfully obvious.
Indeed Humans are Apes Ramapithecus is an Ape thus we are related. Thus nothing was abandoned.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
July 28, 2023 at 10:07 am (This post was last modified: July 28, 2023 at 10:08 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:Pathetic and silly. The Blessed Virgin Mary first gave Her Consent to Almighty God. Secondly, it was a Spiritual Union between the Holy Spirit and the Holy Virgin Mary, the Immaculate Mother of God. Did the Pharisees teach you to say filthy things of Her as they've written in their Talmud? Almighty God is strict in Judging those who speak evilly of His Most Pure Mother.
Now, here's what I was talking about.
Genesis 1: God creates the First Animal Pair of each Kind, which then reproduces according to its own kind. God then creates Mankind - Humanity - Adam and Eve, and this in His Own Divine and Special Image, which is what the Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionsists are tryign to rob you of, your innate God-Given Dignity, as a Man or Woman Created in His Image, by telling you that you are an Ape and a Son of a Monkey or Daughter of a Monkey Instead:
"20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
When God says, "Let Us", rather than let me, that's also a reference to the Trinity, and thus the Divinity of Christ, which is already clear in Genesis.
Needs more griffins and wizards
Also there is nothing undignified about being an Ape considering humans are Apes and Human can be quite dignified
Also human are apes and apes produce more apes.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
Gods a mamas boy, apparently. Ready to fly off the handle at anyone who says a single humanizing word about his sainted mother.
-and these fuckers can't figure out why we don't want to date their boyfriend?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Also somehow being an ape is undignified the fact they think that is very telling
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
July 28, 2023 at 10:34 am (This post was last modified: July 28, 2023 at 10:34 am by h4ym4n.)
(July 28, 2023 at 9:53 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(July 28, 2023 at 7:04 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Right because women in that time could easily say no about anything.
You’re pathetic
Actually the Dumb God ™ in Genesis didn't know what to make as a mate for Adam.
So they had tryouts. It says so right there in Genesis. And it involved bestiality as well as whatever fucking birds would be called.
Genesis 2:18-20
The Lord God said "It is not good for man to be alone. I will make a suitable partner for him". So the Lord God formed out of the ground various
wild animals and various birds of the air and he brought them to the man to see what he would call them; whatever the man called each of them would be it's name.
The man gave names to all the cattle, all the birds of the air, and all the wild animals; but none proved to be the suitable partner for the man.
Genesis was written by Jews. They did not ever buy into the Trinity. You're dead wrong Pissant.
The Jews (until Isaiah) were polytheistic however. Yahweh had a wife. The Heavenly Host were all divine, in Jewish culture. That did not make them gods.
That subject these days, ie "other divine beings" in that culture is the subject of somewhat intense research and thus the subject of a number of recent PhD theses, in Ancient Semitic Languages and Cultures.
"Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionsists"
BTW, that's a psycho disordered paranoid personality if there ever was one.
And remember the bullshit thing that a day is 500 years to the lord.
That means for just a half day/250 human years of naming and fucking animals. Omnithing had to creat rib woman.
July 28, 2023 at 10:45 am (This post was last modified: July 28, 2023 at 11:00 am by The Grand Nudger.)
If you had to watch that shit youd've made a rib woman too. Adam, no clothes, wandering around primordial garden earth wearing everything like a sock.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(July 28, 2023 at 7:03 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Did the Pharisees teach you to say filthy things of Her as they've written in their Talmud?
Oh, the pedo defender is indulging in some antisemitism.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
July 28, 2023 at 12:15 pm (This post was last modified: July 28, 2023 at 12:22 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(July 28, 2023 at 10:34 am)h4ym4n Wrote: And remember the bullshit thing that a day is 500 years to the lord.
That means for just a half day/250 human years of naming and fucking animals. Omnithing had to create rib woman.
Eve was an after thought
I seriously don't want to be "pedantic" ... it's just that a lot of these things are well known in (sort of a hobby) Babylonian Mythology, (where they got them),
which I was introduced to in school, before I got serious about a career.
Tell me to stop, and I will. Here is an excerpt from the longer paper in the spoiler. I would probably edit it now, (it was written at least 10 years ago), and some of the links may not be active any longer).
"In Babylonian mythology, there is the concept of the "mes", (traits, or skills), which were collected by Enhil/Enkimes were an interesting aspect of this system. The mes were the skills or traits of a civilized life. The mes were collected and then handed over to the safe-keeping of Enki who was to broker them out to the various Sumerian cities, beginning with his own city of Eridu and then Ur, Meluhha, and Dilmun. This is described in the epic poem, "Enki and the World Order" which tells how he grants the gifts for various crafts and natural phenomena to the lesser gods. After telling himself, and everyone what a great guy he is, Enki's daughter, Inanna comes before him, complaining that he gave her too little in the way of divine influence. Her main intent is to bring more of the Arts of Civilization, (the mes)to Uruk", but mainly Inanna's discontent is the theme. She is the protector deity of Uruk and desires to increase its power, glory by bringing more mes to it from Eridu. She travels to Enki's Eridu shrine, the E-abzu, in her "boat of heaven", and asks the mes from him, when he is drunk, and he agrees. After she departs with them, he comes to his senses and notices they are missing from their usual place, and on being informed what he did with them attempts to retrieve them. The attempt fails and Inanna triumphantly delivers them to Uruk.We never learn what any of the mes look like, exactly, but they are represented as physical objects of some sort. Not only are they stored in a prominent location in the E-abzu, but Inanna is able to display them to the people of Uruk after she arrives with them in her boat. Some of them are indeed physical objects such as musical instruments, but many are technologies like basket weaving or abstractions like "victory". It is not made clear in the poem how such things can be stored, handled, or displayed.
Not all the mes are admirable or desirable traits. Alongside functions like "heroship" and "victory" we also find "the destruction of cities", "falsehood", and "enmity". The Sumerians apparently considered such evils and sins an inevitable part of humanity's lot in life, divinely and inscrutably decreed, and not to be questioned.
The mes were found by archaeologists in at least 4 separate lists. There are 64 mes..
In Babylonian mythology, the Tablet of Destinies, (a legal document, or "covenant") was conferred upon Enki, the Supreme Deity, as a measure of his authority. He was da boss, by virtue of the Tablet of Destiny..
The most important myth for our purpose here, is Marduk slaying the Dragon of Chaos, (Tiamat). First here are a few of the other well known Babylonian myths, just to get a feel what the themes were, in general. Then I'll tell the Marduk story.
Enki, the (supreme and Water-god, and God of wisdom), impregnates his half-sister, Nin-Hursang.. Enki wants a boy, but gets a girl. Then he impregnates the daughter, who also has a daughter. Nin-Hursang decides to stop all this immoral stuff by sowing eight poisonous plants in the garden. Enki eats the plants, and becomes ill. One of the sick organs is his rib. Nin-ti is created to heal Enki. Her name means, "she who makes live". Nin-ti means the same thing as the Hebrew word for "Eve". Nin-ti, is usually translated as the "lady of the rib". "Ti" means "to make live". Note : "Eve" is translated from the Hebrew chavvaòh , for lifegiver, as in "the mother of all living." Its root, Chaya, means "serpent" in Aramaic. Eve and serpent are taken to be synonymous. Thus a "pun" is set up in the Hebrew, (which was used later.)
From the Babylonians also comes the legend of of Adapa. The son of the God of Wisdom (Ea, also called Enki), broke the wing of the Storm bird, who had attacked him in what is today, the Persian Gulf. Ea summons Adapa, and warned him about his behavior, and told him he would be offered food and drink which would be deadly, and he must refuse it. When Anu, (one of the council of three highest gods), found out about the disclosure, attempted to foil Ea, by offering Adapa the bread of life, and the water of life, instead. He, Adapa, refused, and Anu sent him to earth as a mortal.
In the myth of Gilgamesh and the Serpent, Gilgamesh heard about a plant that held the secret to immortality. By much effort, he pulled it up from the bottom of the ocean. On the way back to his peeps, he set the plant aside at a spring where he stopped to take a bath. A serpent came up from the water and grabbed the plant. As it returned to the water, it shed its skin. In so doing, the serpent robbed humans of the potential for rejuvenation and acquired an ability to renew itself by shedding its skin.
So we have poisonous plants, ribs, Eve, death by eating stuff, bread of heaven, water of life, plants which offer immortality, and snakes which bring about death, and most important, Chaos and Order."
Back on TTA, this had 56,000 hits. Sorry this is a disaster ... formatting is awful, and I don't have time to fix it. I'll repost it later
[b]Salvation/ Mythic Origins[/b] The Mythic Origins of Genesis orsalvation, ,,, why you don't need to run out and get any this week.
So I have always been fascinated by humans who preach that Jebus came to save us, and I need to go git me some of thatsalvationstuff, at my local 7-11, (church). When I look at the roots of it all, in the history of human ideas, in Comparative Religion, and Comparative Mythology, I find I don't really need any. But thanks anyway.
When above the heavens were not named Below the earth was not called by name Apsu, the primeval, was their progenitor Mummi-Tiamat was the bearer of all of them
(The first 4 lines of the Amorite Creation Myth, the "Enuma Elish").
Sound familiar ?
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