(August 23, 2023 at 1:46 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You must not get out much.

I disagree. But it may just be we live in different environments and have travelled to different places

Yes, celebrities have their own rules. I will clarify my position: I've never seen an ugly man with an attractive woman in real life, except where money was involved.

I get the feeling you are too biased.

And it's pretty crappy to suggest that the only reason a woman would be with a man considered less attractive is if he has an attractive bank account.

That's incel talk.

My experience is simply that, my personal experience.

After pointing out this observation my ex-wife started looking at couples too. She didn't see an ugly man with an attractive woman either.

Also, I didn't say less attractive man. I said ugly man with an attractive woman. And by money involved I meant prostitution.

Yeah, I'm out. Vibe is bad on this thread now.

I'm sorry you think I've made the vibe bad. I simply reported my lived experience.

I wonder one other thing. You consider yourself a 1, which I assume to mean ugly. Where did the ex fall on the 1-10 scale? If reading your position correctly, I would assume she's a one, two, or three at most.

I don't consider myself a 1. Where did you get that from?

Indeed, I only use numerical rank terms for quick communication as I think they're a bit rubbish.

If I had to, I'd say I was around a 5 (maybe a 4). My ex-wife was in my opinion a 6, though many others would say she was a 7. I never found her attractive.

I also admit the existence of rare outliers, I don't think a 1 with a 10 is impossible. Merely highly unlikely. I personally have never seen such an outlier.

It seems you have not grasped my position but projected something into it, perhaps a stereotypical 'incel'. I am not not incel.

I've always been a 10.

(August 23, 2023 at 2:28 pm)FrustratedFool Wrote: I don't consider myself a 1.  Where did you get that from?

Indeed, I only use numerical rank terms for quick communication as I think they're a bit rubbish.

If I had to, I'd say I was around a 5.  My ex-wife was in my opinion a 6, though many others would say she was a 7.  I never found her attractive.

I also admit the existence of rare outliers, I don't think a 1 with a 10 is impossible.  Merely highly unlikely.  I personally have never seen such an outlier.

It seems you have not grasped my position but projected  something into it, perhaps a stereotypical 'incel'.  I am not not incel.

Apologies, my memory wasn't good then.  

I was asking questions, trying to be clear on things.  If that's projection - okay then.  

You married someone you were not attracted to...I assume (read that again, I assume) you mean you weren't physically attracted to her.  But there must have been something there that you liked unless you were held at gunpoint to marry her.

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Cool. I would love to be highly attractive.