There's a lot of people who are here because Plan B wasn't available in time. Plan B does NOT abort, it prevents conception. Pity so many religitards didn't have that excuse to make their girlfriends marry them, ain't it.

Problem solved

Gods poop hole loophole 

That is brilliant!

(July 23, 2023 at 2:00 pm)h4ym4n Wrote:

(July 23, 2023 at 1:27 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Hymn4n, your question is a false dichotomy.

Really? How so?

In my case, someone who has never believed and wasn’t given the evidence that god gave you that it exists , that me being aborted and instantly being put into heaven or limbo would have been far better for me than being born to a world Satan controls, never believing and being tortured for all eternity for not believing?

You know you are fucked saying yes it would be better for me to have been aborted because even limbo, in your own words, doesn’t sound that bad.

By saying yes you would be acknowledging that abortion is a better choice then gambling against sin that could send one to hell..

Your a fucken coward Xavier

CHECKMATE!

Quote:GN. You should read what Christiano Ronaldo said to a Reporter: "′My mother raised me by sacrificing her life for me. She slept hungry so I could eat at night. We had no money at all. She worked 7 days a week and evenings as a cleaner to buy my first football equipment so that I could become a player, my complete success is dedicated to her. And as long as I live, she will always be by my side and have everything I can give her.". See the difference between children raised with Good Pro-Life Values (Christiano Ronaldo, apart from being perhaps the World's Most Famous Footballer, is also a Devout Catholic), and those raised with false Pro-Abort "values", who'd just effectively euthanize their parents, as even Aegon said above, by abandoning, forsaking, never visiting, never caring, never sending money etc etc to parents. Btw, everyone should save up a fair amount of their own for their own Retirement of course, but absolutely children, now all grown up and Adults, can and should help their parents in every way, as and when they really need it. Not all help need be financial of course, but financial help is included; often aged parents just need love and care, should be visited now and then etc. Neither is this a matter of legality but of moral obligation, which those raised with non-abort good values know intuitively.

Lol yup that guy's mom chooses to have him and raise him and she has every right to do that but no one has the right to force a woman to do this nor is it a moral obligation to have to do any of the above it's not a bad thing to do but is not a moral obligation. Women have every moral and legal right to reject motherhood and the subversion of their bodily autonomy and no Adult has a moral or legal obligation to look after their parents the way you describe above. What you stating here is mere opinions and is no more binding than take a penny leave a penny.

Gotta love the arrogance of "my values are right because they are my values " Also gotta love the assumption that "non-abort" values are somehow bad because they were taught.

23 million miscarriages per year.

That's a hell of a lot of God-induced abortion.

God sucks. He'd suck even harder if he was real.

(August 6, 2023 at 2:36 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: 23 million miscarriages per year.  

That's a hell of a lot of God-induced abortion.

That seems to be a very low estimate.   There are 140 successful new births World wide each year.    It is estimated up to 50% of inceptions spontaneously fail with or without the mother knowing during first 20 weeks of pregnancy. That would make approximately 140 million spontaneous abortions World wide a year.   That doesn’t even count still born births.

So how many people did god abort?   At least as many as the number of humans ever actually born alive on earth.    Even if only Homo sapiens are counted as human, ie Neanderthals and homo erectus have no souls and can’t be saved even if our ancesters seems to not have scrupled to screw with them, that still makes for at least 117 billion.

So God, being eternal and truly immortal, is the highest abortionist, than which there is no higher.

So as theologians tell us, mortal practitioners of abortion  are being given the grace to be more like god, that is to say, Jesus, with whom he is consubstantial.

Right to lifers are, therefore, servants of the devil.

I know I am a bit late, but as a new person, I have something I want to say, even if the topic creator is banned. (Not that he would listen, anyway)

I would like to say that the choice of aborting a baby, no no! The choice of aborting a fetus, which is not really life as others said, should be given to the older woman carrying a child. Not only is it for medical reasons to possibly save a life if they can't handle it, but the fetus is not a baby even born yet. Children have to grow up by becoming 18 at least in the USA, anyway, so technically, giving a fetus rights to live over the mother's choice to abort a child is just contradicting the laws of adulthood, is it not?

Also, people who believe abortion is wrong; mainly religious people; may just want the fetus to be born so there would be more power given to religion or the church. Why? Because more people means more power. The same can be said for politics and people who are politicians who believe abortion is wrong, and they are more so using it as an excuse to gain more power by having more people born so they can have more power to exert, and perhaps more people to take advantage of.

That said, one more thing; about women who might die because they were forced to give birth to a child that might kill them if they can't handle it, those who deny such women those rights are not only wanting a fetus to be born for, reasons, but they are hypocrites if they say they value life, for they do not value the lives of such women who may die due to child birth that they can't handle.

(September 2, 2023 at 11:11 am)ShinyCrystals Wrote: I know I am a bit late, but as a new person, I have something I want to say, even if the topic creator is banned. (Not that he would listen, anyway)

I would like to say that the choice of aborting a baby, no no! The choice of aborting a fetus, which is not really life as others said, should be given to the older woman carrying a child. Not only is it for medical reasons to possibly save a life if they can't handle it, but the fetus is not a baby even born yet. Children have to grow up by becoming 18 at least in the USA, anyway, so technically, giving a fetus rights to live over the mother's choice to abort a child is just contradicting the laws of adulthood, is it not?

Also, people who believe abortion is wrong; mainly religious people; may just want the fetus to be born so there would be more power given to religion or the church. Why? Because more people means more power. The same can be said for politics and people who are politicians who believe abortion is wrong, and they are more so using it as an excuse to gain more power by having more people born so they can have more power to exert, and perhaps more people to take advantage of.

That said, one more thing; about women who might die because they were forced to give birth to a child that might kill them if they can't handle it, those who deny such women those rights are not only wanting a fetus to be born for, reasons, but they are hypocrites if they say they value life, for they do not value the lives of such women who may die due to child birth that they can't handle.

It's pretty well documented that people in leadership a number of years back identified abortion as a promising wedge issue and have focused there efforts on it in order to maximize their base.