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**Silver** · February 29, 2024 at 8:39 am

Quote:President Vladimir Putin told Western countries on Thursday they risked provoking a nuclear war if they sent troops to fight in Ukraine, warning that Moscow had the weapons to strike targets in the West.

Reuters

pocaracas · February 29, 2024 at 8:45 am

(February 29, 2024 at 8:39 am)Foxaèr Wrote:
Quote:President Vladimir Putin told Western countries on Thursday they risked provoking a nuclear war if they sent troops to fight in Ukraine, warning that Moscow had the weapons to strike targets in the West.

Reuters

Oh noes... No one had ever considered that yet! Thank you Mister Putain for telling us what you'll do and showing us just how attached to power you are.

Leonardo17 · (This post was last modified: February 29, 2024 at 10:27 am by Leonardo17.)

   I don’t know (or understand) all the details. But in France there is this populist “National Rally” political party led by Mrs. Marine Lepen wich is openly receiving funds from Moscow. So Mrs Lepen used Mr. Macron’s speech very cleverly saying that her party would never agree to sending French soldier to die to liberate the Donbas.

   The German Olaf Sholz also seems to have overreacted. The way I understand it, this is mainly about sending Western expertise to Ukraine to support them in using all the Western equipment against Russia and/or maybe some other expertise related troops like support in logistical, medical and/or demining issues etc.

    So Mr. Macron just said what somebody had to say at some point in this conflict. Don’t you agree? Cool

Here are some comments of A British Admiral (Tony Radakin) on a potential Russia vs. NATO escalation.

https://news.yahoo.com/putin-doesnt-real...31459.html

In such a situation Russia would be outnumbered in terms of military equipment, aircrafts, navy vessels and manpower.

They would of course be able to do some nuclear damage (None of us wants to even dream of a possibility like that). But without some sort of surprise support from China, Putin and his team would die of be tried like the Nazi’s being tried in Nuremberg in October 1945 within a few months or perhaps even within weeks.

So the nuclear threats that are being repeated by Moscow is only a reminder that we must look for ways to reduce the number of these weapons in the world.

ShinyCrystals · February 29, 2024 at 9:03 am

(February 29, 2024 at 8:39 am)Foxaèr Wrote:
Quote:President Vladimir Putin told Western countries on Thursday they risked provoking a nuclear war if they sent troops to fight in Ukraine, warning that Moscow had the weapons to strike targets in the West.

Reuters

Man, Putinhead must be desperate. Since he is the leader of a country that is big in more ways than one, he should be confident he will win the war (even though he is not really winning at the moment) and this, he should not resort to threatening other countries like this.

Pat Mustard · February 29, 2024 at 4:39 pm

(February 23, 2024 at 10:24 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It can be both, Leo. A thief and a madman, judging by this particular smash and grab attempt.

I'd love to see that army of 1.3 million. They're having enough trouble training and equipping the army they have. Gonna be a whole lot of stick and stone brigades. I'm not sure what you would take as evidence that china has supported russia if chinese mortar shells found in the vicinity of dead ukranians doesn't count. Russia can't make enough tanks, russia cant make enough ammo, russia cant train enough soldiers, and russia couldn't feed or clothe them or keep them operational even if they could build or train them.

-and that, is why they wanted a three day war. We're now in year three of putins three day invasion, he remains a master strategist.

There's one bit of good news from that graphic for Ruzzia, they've increased their submarine fleet by 25!

Pat Mustard · February 29, 2024 at 4:45 pm

(February 23, 2024 at 7:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(February 23, 2024 at 1:31 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The idea that Russia's "military might" is a fearsome juggernaut rather than a paper tiger is belied by the fact that they're buying rockets and artillery from DPRK, of all suppliers.

They may still win this war. They may still lose this war. Bear in mind that World War I was stalemated until it wasn't, and that once the Eastern Front broke open not only did the Russian army collapse, the Russians sued for peace, and the Tsar's government was
overthrown and then eliminated. All of that was unforeseeable as late as February 1917.

By every metric that matters, Russia has already lost this war. Massive loss of life and equipment, shit morale, a laughing stock on the world stage, and (most importantly) failure to achieve any of the stated objectives.

Russia could take the whole country, install a puppet government in Kyiv, and they will STILL have lost the war. At this point, all they can do is win battles.

Boru

Probably the most damaging consequence of this war is that foreign orders for Ruzzian military kit have shrivelled up and disappeared since the start of it. By showing how badly their "modern" stuff performs in actual battles, Ruzzia has proven that their kit is useless to all but the poorest nations who'd only ever use the stuff on unarmed civilians, and they're not going to pay the prices Ruzzia needs to fund their corruption, I mean military, projects.

**The Valkyrie** · February 29, 2024 at 4:49 pm

(February 29, 2024 at 4:39 pm)GUBU Wrote:
(February 23, 2024 at 10:24 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It can be both, Leo. A thief and a madman, judging by this particular smash and grab attempt.

I'd love to see that army of 1.3 million. They're having enough trouble training and equipping the army they have. Gonna be a whole lot of stick and stone brigades. I'm not sure what you would take as evidence that china has supported russia if chinese mortar shells found in the vicinity of dead ukranians doesn't count. Russia can't make enough tanks, russia cant make enough ammo, russia cant train enough soldiers, and russia couldn't feed or clothe them or keep them operational even if they could build or train them.

-and that, is why they wanted a three day war. We're now in year three of putins three day invasion, he remains a master strategist.

There's one bit of good news from that graphic for Ruzzia, they've increased their submarine fleet by 25!

Technically, do you sink a submarine or just stop it from resurfacing?

**Jackalope** · February 29, 2024 at 6:14 pm

(February 29, 2024 at 8:39 am)Foxaèr Wrote:
Quote:President Vladimir Putin told Western countries on Thursday they risked provoking a nuclear war if they sent troops to fight in Ukraine, warning that Moscow had the weapons to strike targets in the West.

Reuters

I'm pretty sure Putin doesn't want Moscow to be a giant ashtray.

**The Grand Nudger** · February 29, 2024 at 8:33 pm

(February 29, 2024 at 4:49 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Technically, do you sink a submarine or just stop it from resurfacing?

They get promoted to reef.

**The Valkyrie** · (This post was last modified: February 29, 2024 at 10:15 pm by The Valkyrie.)

(February 29, 2024 at 6:14 pm)Jackalope Wrote:
(February 29, 2024 at 8:39 am)Foxaèr Wrote: Reuters

I'm pretty sure Putin doesn't want Moscow to be a giant ashtray.

Putin and I have differing opinions.

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