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TheWhiteMarten · (This post was last modified: Yesterday at 11:26 pm by TheWhiteMarten.)

(Yesterday at 11:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Now, do you think the donald and his advisors don't know that? That they're incompetent buffoons? Or do you think they count on their supporters not knowing that? That they're credulous marks.

Edit - I don't believe either, because I don't believe in the strawman boogieman your premise revolves around.

**Rev. Rye** · Yesterday at 11:20 pm

(Yesterday at 11:09 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Not sure why I cant reply, but as for the chart; yes, when you do not take into account billions of dollars worth of damage in cities like Minneapolis or LA being burnt down in race riots as terrorism, when you don't consider Marxists assaulting Jews and vandalizing synagogues and Jewish cemeteries as terrorism, then sure - left wing terrorism is low.

It's very easy to say it's "low" when your side is getting to make up the numbers. Something very common in leftist ideology.

According to the FBI, “The FBI defines terrorism, domestic or international, as the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government or civilian population in furtherance of political or social objectives.” That might explain why such incidents aren’t countered. That and the invasion of Gaza happening after the chart was created.

TheWhiteMarten · Yesterday at 11:25 pm

(Yesterday at 11:20 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(Yesterday at 11:09 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Not sure why I cant reply, but as for the chart; yes, when you do not take into account billions of dollars worth of damage in cities like Minneapolis or LA being burnt down in race riots as terrorism, when you don't consider Marxists assaulting Jews and vandalizing synagogues and Jewish cemeteries as terrorism, then sure - left wing terrorism is low.

It's very easy to say it's "low" when your side is getting to make up the numbers. Something very common in leftist ideology.

According to the FBI, “The FBI defines terrorism, domestic or international, as the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government or civilian population in furtherance of political or social objectives.” That might explain why such incidents aren’t countered. That and the invasion of Gaza happening after the chart was created.

The BLM and Rodney King race riots both revolved around the unlawful use of force and violence against persons and property to intimidate and coerce both the Government of the United States of America and it's civilian population into achieving their political and social objectives.

Assaulting Jews and destroying their property because you hate Israel - which happened long before Gaza - is done with the intention to terrorize Jews and to attempt to draw attention to the political and social cause of Islamic colonialism in Israel.

Both are terrorism by the definition you just provided.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: Yesterday at 11:29 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

(Yesterday at 11:20 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(Yesterday at 11:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Now, do you think the donald and his advisors don't know that? That they're incompetent buffoons? Or do you think they count on their supporters not knowing that? That they're credulous marks.

Edit - I don't believe either, because I don't believe in the strawman boogieman your premise revolves around.

If you have an actual plan to apprehend and deport that many people you should probably apply to the trump white house...because I know they don't, lol. If you have any numbers showing that the us economy would be better off without it's army of migrant labor...same, because the reich is thirsty for it.

**Rev. Rye** · Yesterday at 11:36 pm

(Yesterday at 11:25 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: The BLM and Rodney King race riots both revolved around the unlawful use of force and violence against persons and property to intimidate and coerce both the Government of the United States of America and it's civilian population into achieving their political and social objectives.

And what were the objectives then and now? Making the police treat black people like human beings?

Also, as for the anti-Semitic hate crimes, how many are done because they hated the shit happening in Gaza (a legitimate problem, but not a good justification for violence, especially when you’re as far from the Gaza Strip as Chicago is) and how how many were because of the many anti-Semitic canards the far-right have spouted for centuries?

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: Yesterday at 11:38 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

Muslims in the us have alot of catching up to do if they wanna be a contender for number of jews killed in america. This poor fucking nut has been thoroughly had.

**Ravenshire** · (This post was last modified: Today at 12:07 am by Ravenshire.)

(Yesterday at 11:18 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(Yesterday at 10:29 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Google is your friend:

Source

Most immigrants here illegally didn't run, jump, or swim here, nor did they ride a cartel caravan. They came here on legitimate visas and simply stayed. Of course, that flies in the face of the shit spewed by the orange orangutan, so it's consistently dismissed as 'fake news' by his adoring fans.

The source you provided is using 2017 numbers; this was during the peak of Trump-era border security regulations, the regulations that Democrats declared as racist and Biden/Harris promised to both repeal and open up.

Of course people were not coming here illegally, by means of foot, when we were funding our border patrol agency and giving them the legal measures to stop, detain, and secure migrants.

Thank you for making my point though; immigration *was* far more fair towards migrants under Trump's policy and was not an open gate that allowed millions of non-qualified and hostile foreign citizens to the country that damage our economy, steal work from hard working immigrants who came here through at least *remotely* savory means.

So, you got a source showing total numbers significantly different during Biden's term? Obama's? Clinton's? Hell, Carter's? Or, are you just gonna blow smoke?

Whatcha got?!?

**arewethereyet** · Today at 12:14 am

(Today at 12:01 am)Ravenshire Wrote:
(Yesterday at 11:18 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: The source you provided is using 2017 numbers; this was during the peak of Trump-era border security regulations, the regulations that Democrats declared as racist and Biden/Harris promised to both repeal and open up.

Of course people were not coming here illegally, by means of foot, when we were funding our border patrol agency and giving them the legal measures to stop, detain, and secure migrants.

Thank you for making my point though; immigration *was* far more fair towards migrants under Trump's policy and was not an open gate that allowed millions of non-qualified and hostile foreign citizens to the country that damage our economy, steal work from hard working immigrants who came here through at least *remotely* savory means.

So, you got a source showing total numbers significantly different during Biden's term? Obama's? Clinton's? Hell, Carter's? Or, are you just gonna blow smoke?

Whatcha got?!?

Ya mean besides bigotry? I'm thinking nada.

Thumpalumpacus · Today at 12:19 am

(Yesterday at 11:05 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: That's mighty coinvent [...]

Who did you "coinvent" this stuff with, and why?

TheWhiteMarten · Today at 12:19 am

(Today at 12:14 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
(Today at 12:01 am)Ravenshire Wrote: So, you got a source showing total numbers significantly different during Biden's term? Obama's? Clinton's? Hell, Carter's? Or, are you just gonna blow smoke?

Whatcha got?!?
Ya mean besides bigotry? I'm thinking nada.

I'm presuming you are referring to racial bigotry?

So far you are the only one who has hold any prejudice against someone for their color of their skin, or again I ask - what was the problem with me having "white" in my name?

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