They have congress and the potus. Let's see how fast the base gets forgotten for the oligarchy.

Bubbas in pickups waving trump flags will be the first to be forgotten. Trump has no use for them now. Purely transactional.

(November 10, 2024 at 6:14 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(November 10, 2024 at 6:04 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:  The current number on homeless pop. is actually 47% - but what's 17 percentage points one way or another?

And, of course, he doesn’t look into why homelessness would be particularly bad in California: namely, that housing prices are too fucking high and demand for housing that’s actually affordable is vastly higher than supply.

Oh, no worries, we're gonna steal mexicans houses, and never you mind that mexicans don't own enough houses and this could never work...we're gonna do it anyway.

I guess...when it's done, we're going to say that the reason it ddn't work is that mexicans were lazy, and didn't build enough houses.

Quote:You really need it spelt out for you that Hollywood - a Californian institution that brings billions of dollars into the state - is tied to the Californian government and might have incentive to promote the policies and agendas of that government?

None of that has anything to do with George's statement or experience so put away the tinfoil hat and actually refute what he says instead of making this about his occupation or who he works for. Quit it with the Ad Homs.

Quote:Relax with the Trump Derangement Syndrome; Wasn't talking about Donald Trump but rather broader immigration policies that foreign countries have used to exploit our legal system, and while Donald Trump has become the face of it because it's easier to build a boogieman... immigration has been a hot-button topic *long* before he was on the scene and I think we both damn well know that.

The only people with TDS are Trump supporters. More delusional nonesense next he will be going on about Jewish Space Lasers and Weather Control Machines.

Quote:6th in violent crime rates.
2nd in property costs.
1st in abortions - a result of poverty and racial discrimination.
High in the CPI (corruption perception index,) although admittedly perhaps a little less corrupt overall than states like New York and Illinois. 
Worst RPP in the nation.
Worst city hit by inflation.
30% of the countries homeless population.
God knows how many businesses from California have moved to my neck of the woods, as well as plenty others to other states.

Hard to guess on drug addiction as multiple drugs in California have been decriminalized.

In simplest terms, we do not "care" what happens in California; the political framework of the United States of America allows for each state to operate as essentially it's own nation, and the reality is that issues such as "should criminals be arrested" and "should women kill their own children" *are* questions better left to the people of a community than some politician in D.C. - we can disagree with it in other states and ideally we should stop doing business with places like California, but if Americans can not decide on issues like this then again... states' rights trump all.

As long as California minds it's own business, they are free to be *the worst* nation in the union; hell, they are free to give everyone a free Bentley and a 75,000 square foot mansion - truly do not care, good for them if they do.

But as long as they want to dictate the laws of the rest of us, they will continue to be mocked for all the failures of their state.

So delusional nonesense

Quote:"Hollywood wants your children to runaway from home and travel thousands of miles to live with them." has to be one of the most unintentionally "on-the-nose" statements I've seen, thank you for that one.

Yeah because they would rather there then anywhere near you and who could blame them 

Quote:Considering I'm not the one bringing him up simply because of the color of his skin, once again I ask you to relax with the accusations of bigotry while exhibiting them yourself.

Pointing out the fact he was discriminated against because of his skin colour and that gives insight into what it's like to be discriminated against because of a skin colour isn't racism and no one here on our side has displayed any bigotry you delusional snowflake

(November 10, 2024 at 5:45 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(November 10, 2024 at 5:25 pm)Silver Wrote: California must be doing something right if it's got them all hot and bothered.

6th in violent crime rates.
2nd in property costs.
1st in abortions - a result of poverty and racial discrimination.
High in the CPI (corruption perception index,) although admittedly perhaps a little less corrupt overall than states like New York and Illinois. 
Worst RPP in the nation.
Worst city hit by inflation.
30% of the countries homeless population.
God knows how many businesses from California have moved to my neck of the woods, as well as plenty others to other states.

Hard to guess on drug addiction as multiple drugs in California have been decriminalized.

In simplest terms, we do not "care" what happens in California; the political framework of the United States of America allows for each state to operate as essentially it's own nation, and the reality is that issues such as "should criminals be arrested" and "should women kill their own children" *are* questions better left to the people of a community than some politician in D.C. - we can disagree with it in other states and ideally we should stop doing business with places like California, but if Americans can not decide on issues like this then again... states' rights trump all.

As long as California minds it's own business, they are free to be *the worst* nation in the union; hell, they are free to give everyone a free Bentley and a 75,000 square foot mansion - truly do not care, good for them if they do.

But as long as they want to dictate the laws of the rest of us, they will continue to be mocked for all the failures of their state.

Sounds like that’s exactly why all of you lot want to be there - just think of all the poor minority drug addicts seeking reproductive care you’ll get to abuse. Good times, amirite?

Boru

(November 10, 2024 at 7:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 10, 2024 at 5:45 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: 6th in violent crime rates.
2nd in property costs.
1st in abortions - a result of poverty and racial discrimination.
High in the CPI (corruption perception index,) although admittedly perhaps a little less corrupt overall than states like New York and Illinois. 
Worst RPP in the nation.
Worst city hit by inflation.
30% of the countries homeless population.
God knows how many businesses from California have moved to my neck of the woods, as well as plenty others to other states.

Hard to guess on drug addiction as multiple drugs in California have been decriminalized.

In simplest terms, we do not "care" what happens in California; the political framework of the United States of America allows for each state to operate as essentially it's own nation, and the reality is that issues such as "should criminals be arrested" and "should women kill their own children" *are* questions better left to the people of a community than some politician in D.C. - we can disagree with it in other states and ideally we should stop doing business with places like California, but if Americans can not decide on issues like this then again... states' rights trump all.

As long as California minds it's own business, they are free to be *the worst* nation in the union; hell, they are free to give everyone a free Bentley and a 75,000 square foot mansion - truly do not care, good for them if they do.

But as long as they want to dictate the laws of the rest of us, they will continue to be mocked for all the failures of their state.

Sounds like that’s exactly why all of you lot want to be there - just think of all the poor minority drug addicts seeking reproductive care you’ll get to abuse. Good times, amirite?

Boru

Yup the republican dream 

(November 10, 2024 at 7:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 10, 2024 at 5:45 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: 6th in violent crime rates.
2nd in property costs.
1st in abortions - a result of poverty and racial discrimination.
High in the CPI (corruption perception index,) although admittedly perhaps a little less corrupt overall than states like New York and Illinois. 
Worst RPP in the nation.
Worst city hit by inflation.
30% of the countries homeless population.
God knows how many businesses from California have moved to my neck of the woods, as well as plenty others to other states.

Hard to guess on drug addiction as multiple drugs in California have been decriminalized.

In simplest terms, we do not "care" what happens in California; the political framework of the United States of America allows for each state to operate as essentially it's own nation, and the reality is that issues such as "should criminals be arrested" and "should women kill their own children" *are* questions better left to the people of a community than some politician in D.C. - we can disagree with it in other states and ideally we should stop doing business with places like California, but if Americans can not decide on issues like this then again... states' rights trump all.

As long as California minds it's own business, they are free to be *the worst* nation in the union; hell, they are free to give everyone a free Bentley and a 75,000 square foot mansion - truly do not care, good for them if they do.

But as long as they want to dictate the laws of the rest of us, they will continue to be mocked for all the failures of their state.

Sounds like that’s exactly why all of you lot want to be there - just think of all the poor minority drug addicts seeking reproductive care you’ll get to abuse. Good times, amirite?

Boru

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Don't worry, Trump will be mandating 60mg TDS-curing pills day 2.

I get it's hard, but you have to face the music; Trump won because people are tired of the Democrats exploiting minorities and the poor, and they are tired of being told that it's not the Democrats doing it.

Planned Parenthood has not been supported by Republicans and is most heavily concentrated in African American neighborhoods, where African Americans are disproportionately affected by the dark blot upon the moral fabric of humanity known as abortion. The same Planned Parenthood formed during the eugenics period by a woman who explicitly wanted to see "undesirables" - the mentally ill, wrong ethnicity, the poor - sterilized and removed from society.

It's not Republican states legalizing drugs; it's not Republican states decriminalizing drug use on the streets; nor is it Republican states claiming that anything less than $950 in stolen goods shall be unpunished.

Yeah, it's infuriating to know you've been lied to; trust me, I know; but digging into racist policies that hurt minorities and women will not fix itself if we give it... "just ONE more decade!"

(November 10, 2024 at 8:57 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(November 10, 2024 at 7:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sounds like that’s exactly why all of you lot want to be there - just think of all the poor minority drug addicts seeking reproductive care you’ll get to abuse. Good times, amirite?

Boru

...

Don't worry, Trump will be mandating 60mg TDS-curing pills day 2.

Good, then you should be getting better by about day 4.