(December 11, 2024 at 12:28 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(December 11, 2024 at 12:05 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Didn't move the goalpost he was the CEO's Karma and that was good

"Nuh-uh" is not a cogent reply. You said that the shooter, despite being Christian, had at least done one "good" thing. Now you're backing away and calling the shooting "karma", which rather negates the personal responsibility of the shooter.

I understand -- you're embarrassed that you said a dumb thing and are trying to spin it, but it really is better to be honest and just admit you said a stupid thing. After all, it's here, in black-and-white, for any reader of this thread to see for themselves. There's no point in you dissimulating now.

 Yeah, he had been the karma and I called this Karma or similar wording earlier in this thread, so I'm not remotely backing off of anything. It was Karma the CEO got shot because an awful person and Luigi Mangione was the person who carried it out, and I think that's a good thing regardless of any positions he might hold.

Yeah, I said nothing dumb and I stand by my statement and thus am in no way embarrassed by it as my current statement is totally consistent with my prior one and statements I have made earlier in this thread, so this statement above is simply false on all counts.

(December 11, 2024 at 12:37 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Yeah, I said nothing dumb and I stand by my statement and thus am in no way embarrassed by it as my current statement is totally consistent with my prior one and statements I have made earlier in this thread, so this statement above is simply false on all counts.

The audience will see for itself that you called his murder a good thing. That is not "simply false"; it's in this thread.

You can have the last word; Make it better than "nuh-uh" if you can manage it.

I refuse to interact with a liar and will not carve out an exception for you.

The difference 

A) I condone Mikes  murder of bob and think the murder was a good thing 

B) I think Bob was terrible person and I'm happy he's gone Mike just happens to be the way he wound up gone. What Mike did was a good thing because the outcome is Bob is gone.

(December 11, 2024 at 12:48 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(December 11, 2024 at 12:37 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Yeah, I said nothing dumb and I stand by my statement and thus am in no way embarrassed by it as my current statement is totally consistent with my prior one and statements I have made earlier in this thread, so this statement above is simply false on all counts.

The audience will see for itself that you called his murder a good thing. That is not "simply false"; it's in this thread.

You can have the last word; Make it better than "nuh-uh" if you can manage it.

I refuse to interact with a liar and will not carve out an exception for you.

No they won't, they will  see the statement you cite perfectly fits in with my defence above, simply dismissing it as "nuh- uh" doesn't change that. Who you choose to interact with is your own choice, but that doesn't change my answer.

(December 10, 2024 at 5:36 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Meh doesn't take away from the one good thing he did

The good thing he did was being the karma the CEO deserved for being an awful person. 

(See Above)

(December 11, 2024 at 1:03 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:

(December 10, 2024 at 5:36 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Meh doesn't take away from the one good thing he did

The good thing he did was being the karma the CEO deserved for being an awful person. 

(See Above)

“There are in nature neither rewards nor punishments — there are consequences.”
― Robert G. Ingersoll

I believe Luigi Mangione was the CEO's consequence for being terrible person if your going to be monster expect that comeback on you  Luigi Mangione was just the means of how it happened and consequentially it was a good thing.

(December 11, 2024 at 12:35 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Saddam was done fucking with people when he was killed.  He was never going to be a problem for anyone ever again.  CEOs remain at large.

That's a fair comparison of course, I was merely illustrating the point, that murder or killing never puts me in a celebratory mood, even were I to deem it necessary. FWIW, I doubt this murder will curtail the greed and bad faith practices of wealthy corporations, and those who run them. Only legislation to regulate such practices will achieve that. Or do away with the health insurance lottery, and then nationalise health care, with states running their own, funded from central government based on necessity, and through taxation.

The new CEO to the anti-health organization has already stated that they will continue the practice of denying what it perceives as unnecessary claims. Because all they care about is how much money they rake in.

(December 10, 2024 at 11:48 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(December 10, 2024 at 5:36 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Meh doesn't take away from the one good thing he did

The CEO was retired. What good is delivered?

What patients has this shooter saved? That's right -- none.

When did he retire? I know he was still CEO in May.