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In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 5, 2025 at 6:03 pm
(May 5, 2025 at 6:00 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 5, 2025 at 5:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You don’t consider blind trust to be a bad idea?

I think if you attach blind to any word it becomes a bad idea: Blind dinner, blind loyalty, blind date, etc.
So offer us some reason for your trust that a deity exists / is possible. Otherwise the inference is that your faith is, by your own admission, a bad idea.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 5, 2025 at 6:03 pm
You also appear to have the same valuation of faith, and this necessitates it's transformation into trust. If you had faith in christ that would be bad, so it cant be that™.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 5, 2025 at 6:04 pm
(May 5, 2025 at 6:00 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 5, 2025 at 5:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You don’t consider blind trust to be a bad idea?

I think if you attach blind to any word it becomes a bad idea: Blind dinner, blind loyalty, blind date, etc.

That's not really an answer
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 5, 2025 at 6:11 pm (This post was last modified: May 5, 2025 at 6:11 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
(May 5, 2025 at 6:04 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: That's not really an answer

It's not much of a question; the word blind is inherently bad here. You might as well ask me if I think cancer-causing trust is bad.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 5, 2025 at 6:16 pm
(May 5, 2025 at 5:26 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: So your faith in Jesus is not based on spiritual conviction?

I don't think so, but I'm not entirely sure what spiritual conviction entails. If you parse it apart, I could probably give a better answer.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 5, 2025 at 6:19 pm
(May 5, 2025 at 6:11 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 5, 2025 at 6:04 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: That's not really an answer

It's not much of a question; the word blind is inherently bad here. You might as well ask me if I think cancer-causing trust is bad.

Good thing that wasn't what he asked then. If you don't have an answer that's fine, I know your ilk is very afraid of the term 'I don't know'.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 5, 2025 at 6:25 pm (This post was last modified: May 5, 2025 at 6:57 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
(May 5, 2025 at 6:19 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Good thing that wasn't what he asked then. If you don't have an answer that's fine, I know your ilk is very afraid of the term 'I don't know'.

Sure—I don't know if having blind trust is a bad idea. Better?
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 5, 2025 at 6:26 pm
(May 5, 2025 at 6:11 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 5, 2025 at 6:04 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: That's not really an answer

It's not much of a question; the word blind is inherently bad here. You might as well ask me if I think cancer-causing trust is bad.
If you have no good reasons for that faith/trust, then blind seems a reasonable descriptor for it, and since you have refused to offer any, just saying.  Dead Horse
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 5, 2025 at 7:23 pm
(May 5, 2025 at 6:25 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 5, 2025 at 6:19 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Good thing that wasn't what he asked then. If you don't have an answer that's fine, I know your ilk is very afraid of the term 'I don't know'.

Sure—I don't know if having blind trust is a bad idea. Better?

Actually, yes. 

Feel free to apply this to other areas of your life. Thoughts and prayers.

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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 5, 2025 at 7:59 pm
(May 5, 2025 at 5:28 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 5, 2025 at 5:00 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Blind faith has existed within Christianity since the beginning.

Okay? As long as you're using faith to mean trust, I'm fine with your assertion.

No, that's not what I mean. But you knew that. Blind faith, faith without evidence, proof, justification or whatever has been present in Christianity from the beginning.
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