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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
October 20, 2026 at 12:01 pm
(This post was last modified: October 20, 2026 at 12:01 pm by AngelThMan.)
(October 20, 2026 at 11:58 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What do you mean says who? This is a simple function of semantic truth content, a consequence of the law of identity. My heart…stolen by you…is…wait for it….my heart, stolen by you.
Says who it's not true? Some people do believe stealing is fine.
Egoism and Nihilism (Philosophical Subsets)
Ethical Egoism: This philosophical subset argues that an action is good or right if it maximizes the individual's self-interest. To a strict ethical egoist, if stealing a valuable item directly benefits them and they can get away with it, the act is considered rational and good for them, independent of any societal rules.
Moral Nihilism and Error Theory: Moral nihilists believe that objective right and wrong do not exist at all. Within this subset, stealing is not viewed as "bad" because no actions are inherently bad.
Who are you to say they're wrong?
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
October 20, 2026 at 12:03 pm
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Right on schedule copying and pasting shit AI told him .....lol
As if that refutes Grands point
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
October 20, 2026 at 12:08 pm
(October 20, 2026 at 12:01 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: Who are you to say they're wrong?
His subjective perspective, obviously. We're all capable of making subjective judgments without also having to agree with how the other person perceives something.
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
October 20, 2026 at 12:09 pm
(October 20, 2026 at 11:58 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What do you mean says who? This is a simple function of semantic truth content, a consequence of the law of identity. My heart…stolen by you…is…wait for it….my heart, stolen by you.
It won’t be, ofc. I’m going to feed you to my dog. I’ll get angry and that will override my better judgement. My insecure and suspicious ape brain will wonder who else thinks they can do this and how I might set a strong example to the contrary. What I -should- do is call the loony bin and get you help….but there’s a really good chance I won’t. A moral failure. A legal one too, at least in our society.
-and yeah, sure, egoism and nihilism are positions people can take. I think those people are wrong. Did I get you wrong…are you not a person looking for a path to objective morality? Are you, in reality, an egoist or a nihilist who doesn’t believe that objective morality is true or possible? If so…then it’s not true or possible with or without gods. His statement is equivalent to saying that because there are people who deny the moon landing and gravity who are we to say they are wrong? it's so dumb
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
October 20, 2026 at 12:10 pm
Exactly why moral disagreement does not establish moral subjectivity or disprove moral objectivity.
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
October 20, 2026 at 12:18 pm
(October 20, 2026 at 12:10 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Exactly why moral disagreement does not establish moral subjectivity or disprove moral objectivity.
What? And why are you not doing a full reply so everyone can see the thread?
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
October 20, 2026 at 12:24 pm
Because people can read the freaking thread themselves, they are not children that need their hands held.
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
October 20, 2026 at 12:42 pm
(October 20, 2026 at 12:01 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: (October 20, 2026 at 11:58 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What do you mean says who? This is a simple function of semantic truth content, a consequence of the law of identity. My heart…stolen by you…is…wait for it….my heart, stolen by you.
Says who it's not true? Some people do believe stealing is fine.
Egoism and Nihilism (Philosophical Subsets)
Ethical Egoism: This philosophical subset argues that an action is good or right if it maximizes the individual's self-interest. To a strict ethical egoist, if stealing a valuable item directly benefits them and they can get away with it, the act is considered rational and good for them, independent of any societal rules.
Moral Nihilism and Error Theory: Moral nihilists believe that objective right and wrong do not exist at all. Within this subset, stealing is not viewed as "bad" because no actions are inherently bad.
Who are you to say they're wrong?
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
October 20, 2026 at 12:46 pm
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
October 20, 2026 at 12:51 pm
(October 20, 2026 at 12:42 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: (October 20, 2026 at 12:01 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: Says who it's not true? Some people do believe stealing is fine.
Egoism and Nihilism (Philosophical Subsets)
Ethical Egoism: This philosophical subset argues that an action is good or right if it maximizes the individual's self-interest. To a strict ethical egoist, if stealing a valuable item directly benefits them and they can get away with it, the act is considered rational and good for them, independent of any societal rules.
Moral Nihilism and Error Theory: Moral nihilists believe that objective right and wrong do not exist at all. Within this subset, stealing is not viewed as "bad" because no actions are inherently bad.
Who are you to say they're wrong?
Argument from authority fallacy. Who does he have to be to say they’re wrong? Everything - literally EVERYTHING - in philosophy is open to argument. Be less stupid.
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