(March 11, 2012 at 9:50 pm)Insanity x Wrote:This is helpful for the discussion, come on dude.(March 11, 2012 at 9:46 pm)black36 Wrote: Because, ID theory is not capable of doing such, just as evolutionary THEORY cannot explain why we are here in the first place. ID theory can only point to the obviousness that something has been designed, rather than naturally formed.
But ID isn't a theory. Its bullshit.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory
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'Intelligent' design?
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black36
Newbie  Religious Views: Non-Denominational, Amillenial, Old Earth, Six Day Creationist Christian RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 9:52 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2012 at 9:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It suggests no such thing, it is not a theory, and it is not science. Just a bunch of airbags running around pointing at things saying "this was designed!". Is repeatedly making easily debunked claims helpful for any discussion, ever?
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black36
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March 11, 2012 at 9:56 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2012 at 9:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Believe he already linked the definition. Explain your willful ignorance of the subject?
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black36
Newbie Religious Views: Non-Denominational, Amillenial, Old Earth, Six Day Creationist Christian
Read it, I don't see the why it doesn't qualify. Enlighten me.
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 10:10 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2012 at 10:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Not sure if anyone can offer you any enlightenment, but something very sinister is happening in your mind without you even being aware of it if you couldn't figure that out from such a simple and short set of possible definitions. Notice that there were multiples angles available and ID still couldn't meet the bar.
Un-evidenced hypothesis is about as far as it gets. (hint: check the "commonly confused with" bit. It get's even worse if we become more specific, and make claims to a "scientific theory", or "scientific hypothesis")
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Pretty much what rhythm said.
ID as far a it could be called science in the loosest term possible is a "Hypothesis - a mere assumption or guess." And I regard it in the same way that my friend told me earlier that aliens created humans. Which is far more likely than magic in fairness to him.
The question now becomes one of who sold you a bill of goods Black? Why would they be so willfully misleading and dishonest, or perhaps they themselves didn't understand the definition? It would be a stretch to assume that someone who makes it their business to argue biology wouldn't know precisely why their pet argument wasn't a theory. ID isn't a pillar of your faith, I assume, you could dustbin ID and still remain devout, yes?
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