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RE: How many years have you been an atheist?
April 1, 2012 at 1:26 am
(April 1, 2012 at 12:27 am)Blanca Wrote: (April 1, 2012 at 12:21 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: The sanctimonious and abusive behaviour of theists.
I hear this often. Couldn't you have explained it away as 'god is good but people do stupid things'? Or 'people misunderstand and misrepresent god'?
No.
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RE: How many years have you been an atheist?
April 1, 2012 at 1:55 am
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My great grandfather, a Frenchman, converted from catholicism, moved to Oregon and set up shop as a minister of a Methodist church. I never met him or my father's father but my father was a dye in the wool believer. If God had ever called on him to sacrifice a son, I'm pretty sure he'd have beaten Abraham's time for getting one of us on the alter. I was convinced praying was talking to myself by the time I was 10. So I'll celebrate 50 years of life after gods in another year.
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RE: How many years have you been an atheist?
April 1, 2012 at 1:59 am
(April 1, 2012 at 1:20 am)Minimalist Wrote: I'm a catholic atheist.
You're from Ireland
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RE: How many years have you been an atheist?
April 1, 2012 at 3:25 am
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I was a Roman Catholic for most of my childhood.
I left the corruption of the church and became an irreligious Christian.
Then I became a Universalist upon studying Revelations because I couldn't resolve the problem of evil.
I converted to Misotheism when there were too many contradictions in the Bible to ever support a loving caring God, and started to believe God was an evil monster. My belief-system in Christianity eventually collapsed into itself when I could no longer rely on the Bible as authoritative.
Believing all religions were man-made I converted to Pantheism/Pandeism and started alternating between the two positions constantly. Ultimately I had to accept I had no basis for renaming the real Universe as "god".
I realised if any god existed it didn't care about human affairs or our lives, period. I converted to deism, however I soon had to accept I had no evidence and no good reason for thinking such a creator being exists at all.
Soon, I couldn't even define God so I became an ignostic.
The belief in a creator or deity imploded soon afterwards and I fell into depression when I confessed there was never any being who was benevolent and cared whether or not I lived or died, it was just me and my own imagination projecting what I wanted onto my own mental construct. My egocentric views of reality were abolished promptly after understanding this.
I honestly truly didn't know what I was at this point. It took several years for me to identify myself as an atheist when I got off my lazy backside and applied a little research and quick study.
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RE: How many years have you been an atheist?
April 1, 2012 at 4:38 am
I was a Catholic, but I never really took part in anything beyond christmas/easter services. I became an atheist once we started studying religion at school, mainly because of the ridiculousness of it.
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RE: How many years have you been an atheist?
April 1, 2012 at 5:52 am
(April 1, 2012 at 3:25 am)Welsh cake Wrote: I was a Roman Catholic for most of my childhood.
I left the corruption of the church and became an irreligious Christian.
Then I became a Universalist upon studying Revelations because I couldn't resolve the problem of evil.
I converted to Misotheism when there were too many contradictions in the Bible to ever support a loving caring God, and started to believe God was an evil monster. My belief-system in Christianity eventually collapsed into itself when I could no longer rely on the Bible as authoritative.
Believing all religions were man-made I converted to Pantheism/Pandeism and started alternating between the two positions constantly. Ultimately I had to accept I had no basis for renaming the real Universe as "god".
I realised if any god existed it didn't care about human affairs or our lives, period. I converted to deism, however I soon had to accept I had no evidence and no good reason for thinking such a creator being exists at all.
Soon, I couldn't even define God so I became an ignostic.
The belief in a creator or deity imploded soon afterwards and I fell into depression when I confessed there was never any being who was benevolent and cared whether or not I lived or died, it was just me and my own imagination projecting what I wanted onto my own mental construct. My egocentric views of reality were abolished promptly after understanding this.
I honestly truly didn't know what I was at this point. It took several years for me to identify myself as an atheist when I got off my lazy backside and applied a little research and quick study.
It's like the deeper it gets into you, the longer/harder it is to get back out. Religion can only get so deep into child dragged to church. But when it lasts into adulthood, it can really permeate so many other beliefs about the world and ourselves. You've paid a steeper price for your freedom than I had to.
I have to remember that some anger toward theists is really anger toward the institution that had us under its thumb. So telling a theist to piss off can be cathartic. If that can't happen here, where can it happen? Perhaps something to that effect should be part of the welcoming advice given to theists wishing to post here. (Hmm .. perhaps it is. I never read it.)
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Re: How many years have you been an atheist?
April 1, 2012 at 6:28 am
From 16+ : about 28 years.
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RE: How many years have you been an atheist?
April 1, 2012 at 6:29 am
I have always been an atheist, was never part of any religion.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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Re: RE: How many years have you been an atheist?
April 1, 2012 at 6:39 am
(April 1, 2012 at 6:29 am)Ace Otana Wrote: I have always been an atheist, was never part of any religion.
Oxymoron alert!
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RE: How many years have you been an atheist?
April 1, 2012 at 6:41 am
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(April 1, 2012 at 6:39 am)fr0d0 Wrote: (April 1, 2012 at 6:29 am)Ace Otana Wrote: I have always been an atheist, was never part of any religion.
Oxymoron alert!
Shut it! Atheism isn't a religion.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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