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The Two Trees
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The Two Trees
This is a rough draft of a 1000 word essay I have to do for my philosophy unit at university. It's to do with the Euthyphro Dilemma.

I think I have been able to show why it can't be that something is good because God commands it, but I'm not sure if I fleshed out the idea entirely.

Feedback would be most appreciated from theists and atheists alike.


"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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RE: The Two Trees
(April 4, 2012 at 2:16 am)FallentoReason Wrote: This is a rough draft of a 1000 word essay I have to do for my philosophy unit at university. It's to do with the Euthyphro Dilemma.

I think I have been able to show why it can't be that something is good because God commands it, but I'm not sure if I fleshed out the idea entirely.

Feedback would be most appreciated from theists and atheists alike.



tldr but then I clicked show contents and was all like tsdr. So I went to http://www.wordcounttool.com/ and pasted your essay in and the count was only 900 so get to writing boy.
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Phil Wrote:tldr but then I clicked show contents and was all like tsdr.
?
Quote: So I went to http://www.wordcounttool.com/ and pasted your essay in and the count was only 900 so get to writing boy.
Yeah I need to think of a counter argument to my own and then disprove it. So that's why I'm ~100 words short.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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RE: The Two Trees
(April 4, 2012 at 2:38 am)FallentoReason Wrote:
Phil Wrote:tldr but then I clicked show contents and was all like tsdr.
?
Quote: So I went to http://www.wordcounttool.com/ and pasted your essay in and the count was only 900 so get to writing boy.
Yeah I need to think of a counter argument to my own and then disprove it. So that's why I'm ~100 words short.

1000 words is nothing. Back when I was in school Philosophy was one of my required core classes even though I majored in Chemistry. The midterm paper was required to be 1500 words or better while the term paper counted in at a whopping 2500 words. What are you in a community college?
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RE: The Two Trees
Phil Wrote:1000 words is nothing.
...yeah I never bragged or complained about it...

I'm doing the beginner unit because I've never done philosophy in my life. The lecturer said if we continue with it in later years you're expected to hand in 2000 word essays every two weeks.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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RE: The Two Trees
(April 4, 2012 at 2:52 am)FallentoReason Wrote:
Phil Wrote:1000 words is nothing.
...yeah I never bragged or complained about it...

I'm doing the beginner unit because I've never done philosophy in my life. The lecturer said if we continue with it in later years you're expected to hand in 2000 word essays every two weeks.

Glad mine was just a core class.
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Just trying to help out here, abandon the two trees and the fruit, I got half way through your post and could shoot it down easily. If you're trying to dismiss Mortimer this is not a good approach. Only someone with little to no knowledge of scripture would agree with you.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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(April 4, 2012 at 3:11 am)Godschild Wrote: Just trying to help out here, abandon the two trees and the fruit, I got half way through your post and could shoot it down easily. If you're trying to dismiss Mortimer this is not a good approach. Only someone with little to no knowledge of scripture would agree with you.

The problem with the essay topic and the unit is that the unit is about moral ethics but when it comes to discussing morals from religion they don't want us to prove or disprove any given religion. We're just expected to talk about the idea of God in a more pure form so to speak. So no real religion applies to the ideas of God... but in saying that we were allowed to choose someone's work and criticise it. So Mortimer implies alot like obviously saying God must be the Christian God. But yeah I don't think they're going to go into detail by saying scripture would disprove my argument because that's not the type of philosophy unit I'm doing.

Thanks for your input though!
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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RE: The Two Trees
(April 4, 2012 at 3:17 am)FallentoReason Wrote:
(April 4, 2012 at 3:11 am)Godschild Wrote: Just trying to help out here, abandon the two trees and the fruit, I got half way through your post and could shoot it down easily. If you're trying to dismiss Mortimer this is not a good approach. Only someone with little to no knowledge of scripture would agree with you.

The problem with the essay topic and the unit is that the unit is about moral ethics but when it comes to discussing morals from religion they don't want us to prove or disprove any given religion. We're just expected to talk about the idea of God in a more pure form so to speak. So no real religion applies to the ideas of God... but in saying that we were allowed to choose someone's work and criticise it. So Mortimer implies alot like obviously saying God must be the Christian God. But yeah I don't think they're going to go into detail by saying scripture would disprove my argument because that's not the type of philosophy unit I'm doing.

Thanks for your input though!

If you are going to criticize Mortimer's idea of God shouldn't you have to respect or at least employ the definition of God. If so the scriptures are not needed to undo your argument. Just sayin'.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The Two Trees
Godschild Wrote:If you are going to criticize Mortimer's idea of God shouldn't you have to respect or at least employ the definition of God.
Pretty much what I'm trying to refute is Mortimer's view of the Divine Command Theory or 'things are good because God says so' point of view in terms of the Euthyphro Dilemma. So as you might have read in my paper, I've gone with his definitions of God and made them my starting point.

Quote:If so the scriptures are not needed to undo your argument. Just sayin'.
As in my argument can be undone without scripture? That's sort of a good thing I guess because this unit isn't about theology or anything. It's just moral ethics.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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