(May 31, 2012 at 6:59 pm)StatCrux Wrote:

(May 31, 2012 at 6:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Okay - a cherry picker. At least you were honest.

cherry picker, yes you atheists love to insult

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(May 31, 2012 at 6:56 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Many here have pointed out that your logic is utterly flawed

really? please quote, insults don't constitute a logical argument btw

So you have nothing. Figures.

can someone tell me what a poe is? I only know edgar allan poe, and that would be a compliment, so i'm sure its not that!'

Use the fucking google search feature. You seem to have no problem doing that when you want to post an inane video clip, so get a clue.

(May 31, 2012 at 7:04 pm)Epimethean Wrote:

(May 31, 2012 at 6:59 pm)StatCrux Wrote: cherry picker, yes you atheists love to insult

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really? please quote, insults don't constitute a logical argument btw

So you have nothing. Figures.

nothing is what you have provided showing my flawed logic, you made the claim, show my flawed logic so I can respond.

(May 31, 2012 at 7:06 pm)StatCrux Wrote: can someone tell me what a poe is? I only know edgar allan poe, and that would be a compliment, so i'm sure its not that!'

A poe is someone who takes up an extreme position in a discussion without actually believing in it.

(May 31, 2012 at 7:07 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Use the fucking google search feature. You seem to have no problem doing that when you want to post an inane video clip, so get a clue.

ok it was simply a civil and honest question, sorry to distress you

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(May 31, 2012 at 7:10 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(May 31, 2012 at 7:06 pm)StatCrux Wrote: can someone tell me what a poe is? I only know edgar allan poe, and that would be a compliment, so i'm sure its not that!'

A poe is someone who takes up an extreme position in a discussion without actually believing in it.

thankyou, devils advocate is a more familiar term to me.

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actually, to be called a poe is a backhanded compliment, its implies the accused is arguing more intelligently than expected, therefore they must be a fake. How would a "poe" be detected otherwise?

(May 31, 2012 at 7:12 pm)StatCrux Wrote:

(May 31, 2012 at 7:07 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Use the fucking google search feature. You seem to have no problem doing that when you want to post an inane video clip, so get a clue.

ok it was simply a civil and honest question, sorry to distress you

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(May 31, 2012 at 7:10 pm)Polaris Wrote: A poe is someone who takes up an extreme position in a discussion without actually believing in it.

thankyou, devils advocate is a more familiar term to me.

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actually, to be called a poe is a backhanded compliment, its implies the accused is arguing more intelligently than expected, therefore they must be a fake. How would a "poe" be detected otherwise?

Well also, a poe can say anything completely absurd and it still be believable as being advocated by a Fundamentalist...though in actuality, if someone really believed in Poe's Law, they'd be kind of gullible.

(May 31, 2012 at 6:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Okay - a cherry picker. At least you were honest.

A cherry picker is less honest than a fundamentalist.

A fundamentalist is honestly that dumb and doesn't pretend otherwise. A cherry picker is very nearly that dumb but pretends to be far smarter.

(May 31, 2012 at 7:09 pm)StatCrux Wrote:

(May 31, 2012 at 7:04 pm)Epimethean Wrote: So you have nothing. Figures.

nothing is what you have provided showing my flawed logic, you made the claim, show my flawed logic so I can respond.

So you haven't been reading the responses to your statements? You certainly haven't been answering questions very well. Find the tabs that indicate the pages in the thread, then go back and read. When you have finished answering questions, we can move on.

(May 31, 2012 at 3:45 pm)StatCrux Wrote:

(May 31, 2012 at 3:39 pm)Panglossian Wrote: "Make it count" basically means to leave a positive impression of yourself after you're gone i.e. create/do something memorable, fight for a cause you passionately believe in, affect and treasure the lives of those you love, and your life will have meaning, purpose, however you wish to label it. Constructing a deity to do all that for you is a cop-out. Your sense of worth should come from who you are as a person, not what you believe in.

But how do you define "positive impression" in a meaningless universe, any action you take is neither positive or negative, its just a meaningless neutral action.

Ok, you're absolutely correct. On the grand scheme of things i.e. the Universe in general, we, as a species, have almost no effect at all. However, one cannot simply construct a cosmic pillar upon which we may stand and shout "hey, Universe! Look at me! My life has meaning now!" That is asinine, and holds not a shred of truth (in accordance with reality as we perceive it). What you must concentrate on is that which you CAN affect, not that which you cannot. Otherwise, you've pretty much just given up. Oh, and I would define "positive impression" as the prevailing memories that others will have of you after you're gone ("Did you find joy in your life? Did your life bring joy to others?"). For instance, there was a guy recently who saved two childeren who were being swept out to sea by the tide, but then he ended up drowning. He will be remembered as kind and brave, you see?