I can explain that for you, he didn't.

(June 22, 2012 at 10:05 am)Rhythm Wrote: I can explain that for you, he didn't.

Yeah but he was asking God things he didn't know apparently and getting things like specific Bible verses O.O

Oh? I can explain that as well, he wasn't.

(June 22, 2012 at 11:42 am)hoppimike Wrote:

(June 22, 2012 at 10:05 am)Rhythm Wrote: I can explain that for you, he didn't.

Yeah but he was asking God things he didn't know apparently and getting things like specific Bible verses O.O

There is a psychological process (I can't remember what it is called) where victims of trauma or grief recall events they've been told about as though they were there, when in fact they were not. A child may say, for instance, "Remember when mommy/daddy done this or that?", even though they were not present at the event in question. These associated memories are the brain's way of coping with trauma. In the same way, we often attribute that which we learn after an event, to the actual event itself. I had an experience once where I thought I saw someone I knew on a bus. The next day I learned that this person had committed suicide. In my mind I constructed a scenario where I had thought it couldn't be her because she had committed suicide. The reason that I know I added this detail later is, had I had this vision on the day that I thought I saw the person, I would have been very unsettled on that day. However, it wasn't until I learned of the woman's suicide that I felt unsettled and fabricated this event in my mind.

(June 22, 2012 at 1:11 pm)gringoperry Wrote:

(June 22, 2012 at 11:42 am)hoppimike Wrote: Yeah but he was asking God things he didn't know apparently and getting things like specific Bible verses O.O

There is a psychological process (I can't remember what it is called) where victims of trauma or grief recall events they've been told about as though they were there, when in fact they were not. A child may say, for instance, "Remember when mommy/daddy done this or that?", even though they were not present at the event in question. These associated memories are the brain's way of coping with trauma. In the same way, we often attribute that which we learn after an event, to the actual event itself. I had an experience once where I thought I saw someone I knew on a bus. The next day I learned that this person had committed suicide. In my mind I constructed a scenario where I had thought it couldn't be her because she had committed suicide. The reason that I know I added this detail later is, had I had this vision on the day that I thought I saw the person, I would have been very unsettled on that day. However, it wasn't until I learned of the woman's suicide that I felt unsettled and fabricated this event in my mind.

wow, really interesing post - thanks man

You know, because I'm comfortably agnostic now I tried praying again about something that was really immediately concerning and important to me but... I still feel nothing, I just feel like I'm talking to myself. I even asked for any kind of sign that I wasn't, and nothing happened ._.

If there is a God... why does he seem to be so difficult to get a response from?

You have to know the secret knock.

(June 22, 2012 at 2:57 pm)hoppimike Wrote: wow, really interesing post - thanks man

You know, because I'm comfortably agnostic now I tried praying again about something that was really immediately concerning and important to me but... I still feel nothing, I just feel like I'm talking to myself. I even asked for any kind of sign that I wasn't, and nothing happened ._.

If there is a God... why does he seem to be so difficult to get a response from?

You know, it just so happens that I can explain that as well. You were. On a more elaborate note, let's suppose that you did "get a sign" (the thought of a deity in the sign business..hehehe). So what? People get their signs all the time, I'm not so cynical as to assume that each and every one of them are lying through their teeth. Trouble is, if you go looking for something you're sufficiently invested in you're most likely going to find it.....even if it isn't there.

"I prayed for such and such and got it. Hallelujah!"
"I prayed for such and such and god, in his wisdom denied me the object in favor of a valuable lesson. Hallelujah!"

(June 22, 2012 at 2:57 pm)hoppimike Wrote:

(June 22, 2012 at 1:11 pm)gringoperry Wrote: There is a psychological process (I can't remember what it is called) where victims of trauma or grief recall events they've been told about as though they were there, when in fact they were not. A child may say, for instance, "Remember when mommy/daddy done this or that?", even though they were not present at the event in question. These associated memories are the brain's way of coping with trauma. In the same way, we often attribute that which we learn after an event, to the actual event itself. I had an experience once where I thought I saw someone I knew on a bus. The next day I learned that this person had committed suicide. In my mind I constructed a scenario where I had thought it couldn't be her because she had committed suicide. The reason that I know I added this detail later is, had I had this vision on the day that I thought I saw the person, I would have been very unsettled on that day. However, it wasn't until I learned of the woman's suicide that I felt unsettled and fabricated this event in my mind.

wow, really interesing post - thanks man

You know, because I'm comfortably agnostic now I tried praying again about something that was really immediately concerning and important to me but... I still feel nothing, I just feel like I'm talking to myself. I even asked for any kind of sign that I wasn't, and nothing happened ._.

If there is a God... why does he seem to be so difficult to get a response from?

Someone posted a series of videos here (I think) before, and I this one will more than answer your question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5q6VFn17o&feature=plcp

What the series from the beginning; should you be so inclined.

(June 22, 2012 at 4:22 pm)gringoperry Wrote:

(June 22, 2012 at 2:57 pm)hoppimike Wrote: wow, really interesing post - thanks man

You know, because I'm comfortably agnostic now I tried praying again about something that was really immediately concerning and important to me but... I still feel nothing, I just feel like I'm talking to myself. I even asked for any kind of sign that I wasn't, and nothing happened ._.

If there is a God... why does he seem to be so difficult to get a response from?

Someone posted a series of videos here (I think) before, and I this one will more than answer your question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5q6VFn17o&feature=plcp

What the series from the beginning; should you be so inclined.

Wow thanks that was really interesting!

I'll share it and watch the rest I think!

Excuse my drunken spelling, it likes to use its own words.