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RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 22, 2012 at 10:05 am
I can explain that for you, he didn't.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 22, 2012 at 11:42 am
(June 22, 2012 at 10:05 am)Rhythm Wrote: I can explain that for you, he didn't.
Yeah but he was asking God things he didn't know apparently and getting things like specific Bible verses O.O
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RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 22, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Oh? I can explain that as well, he wasn't.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 22, 2012 at 1:11 pm
(June 22, 2012 at 11:42 am)hoppimike Wrote: (June 22, 2012 at 10:05 am)Rhythm Wrote: I can explain that for you, he didn't.
Yeah but he was asking God things he didn't know apparently and getting things like specific Bible verses O.O
There is a psychological process (I can't remember what it is called) where victims of trauma or grief recall events they've been told about as though they were there, when in fact they were not. A child may say, for instance, "Remember when mommy/daddy done this or that?", even though they were not present at the event in question. These associated memories are the brain's way of coping with trauma. In the same way, we often attribute that which we learn after an event, to the actual event itself. I had an experience once where I thought I saw someone I knew on a bus. The next day I learned that this person had committed suicide. In my mind I constructed a scenario where I had thought it couldn't be her because she had committed suicide. The reason that I know I added this detail later is, had I had this vision on the day that I thought I saw the person, I would have been very unsettled on that day. However, it wasn't until I learned of the woman's suicide that I felt unsettled and fabricated this event in my mind.
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RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 22, 2012 at 2:57 pm
(June 22, 2012 at 1:11 pm)gringoperry Wrote: (June 22, 2012 at 11:42 am)hoppimike Wrote: Yeah but he was asking God things he didn't know apparently and getting things like specific Bible verses O.O
There is a psychological process (I can't remember what it is called) where victims of trauma or grief recall events they've been told about as though they were there, when in fact they were not. A child may say, for instance, "Remember when mommy/daddy done this or that?", even though they were not present at the event in question. These associated memories are the brain's way of coping with trauma. In the same way, we often attribute that which we learn after an event, to the actual event itself. I had an experience once where I thought I saw someone I knew on a bus. The next day I learned that this person had committed suicide. In my mind I constructed a scenario where I had thought it couldn't be her because she had committed suicide. The reason that I know I added this detail later is, had I had this vision on the day that I thought I saw the person, I would have been very unsettled on that day. However, it wasn't until I learned of the woman's suicide that I felt unsettled and fabricated this event in my mind.
wow, really interesing post - thanks man 
You know, because I'm comfortably agnostic now I tried praying again about something that was really immediately concerning and important to me but... I still feel nothing, I just feel like I'm talking to myself. I even asked for any kind of sign that I wasn't, and nothing happened ._.
If there is a God... why does he seem to be so difficult to get a response from?
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RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 22, 2012 at 3:31 pm
You have to know the secret knock.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 22, 2012 at 4:20 pm
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(June 22, 2012 at 2:57 pm)hoppimike Wrote: wow, really interesing post - thanks man
You know, because I'm comfortably agnostic now I tried praying again about something that was really immediately concerning and important to me but... I still feel nothing, I just feel like I'm talking to myself. I even asked for any kind of sign that I wasn't, and nothing happened ._.
If there is a God... why does he seem to be so difficult to get a response from?
You know, it just so happens that I can explain that as well. You were. On a more elaborate note, let's suppose that you did "get a sign" (the thought of a deity in the sign business..hehehe). So what? People get their signs all the time, I'm not so cynical as to assume that each and every one of them are lying through their teeth. Trouble is, if you go looking for something you're sufficiently invested in you're most likely going to find it.....even if it isn't there.
"I prayed for such and such and got it. Hallelujah!"
"I prayed for such and such and god, in his wisdom denied me the object in favor of a valuable lesson. Hallelujah!"
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 22, 2012 at 4:22 pm
(June 22, 2012 at 2:57 pm)hoppimike Wrote: (June 22, 2012 at 1:11 pm)gringoperry Wrote: There is a psychological process (I can't remember what it is called) where victims of trauma or grief recall events they've been told about as though they were there, when in fact they were not. A child may say, for instance, "Remember when mommy/daddy done this or that?", even though they were not present at the event in question. These associated memories are the brain's way of coping with trauma. In the same way, we often attribute that which we learn after an event, to the actual event itself. I had an experience once where I thought I saw someone I knew on a bus. The next day I learned that this person had committed suicide. In my mind I constructed a scenario where I had thought it couldn't be her because she had committed suicide. The reason that I know I added this detail later is, had I had this vision on the day that I thought I saw the person, I would have been very unsettled on that day. However, it wasn't until I learned of the woman's suicide that I felt unsettled and fabricated this event in my mind.
wow, really interesing post - thanks man
You know, because I'm comfortably agnostic now I tried praying again about something that was really immediately concerning and important to me but... I still feel nothing, I just feel like I'm talking to myself. I even asked for any kind of sign that I wasn't, and nothing happened ._.
If there is a God... why does he seem to be so difficult to get a response from?
Someone posted a series of videos here (I think) before, and I this one will more than answer your question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5q6VFn17o&feature=plcp
What the series from the beginning; should you be so inclined.
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RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 22, 2012 at 4:40 pm
(June 22, 2012 at 4:22 pm)gringoperry Wrote: (June 22, 2012 at 2:57 pm)hoppimike Wrote: wow, really interesing post - thanks man
You know, because I'm comfortably agnostic now I tried praying again about something that was really immediately concerning and important to me but... I still feel nothing, I just feel like I'm talking to myself. I even asked for any kind of sign that I wasn't, and nothing happened ._.
If there is a God... why does he seem to be so difficult to get a response from?
Someone posted a series of videos here (I think) before, and I this one will more than answer your question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5q6VFn17o&feature=plcp
What the series from the beginning; should you be so inclined.
Wow thanks that was really interesting!
I'll share it and watch the rest I think!
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RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 22, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Excuse my drunken spelling, it likes to use its own words.
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