Why should you feel you HAVE to apologise Trist??

Yes this act is nothing more than a childish joke and should be ridiculed as such.

(July 6, 2012 at 9:27 am)Justtristo Wrote: Do I have to be more clearer in stating I posted the article for people to laugh at it, since to me it is quite hilarious. I will apologise for having a dark sense of humour which will laugh at things like religious fanatics setting themselves on fire.

Also I have never personally referred to Christians as f********. However I will defend those who will use that I see it as totally fair not to have much respect for the religious beliefs people hold, especially given how idiotic a lot of them really are.

Unlike some Christians who really fear and despise Atheists, I just pity those 'Bible Believing' Christians.

Don't get me wrong, I take a South-Parkian view on stuff like this. I think everything should be fair game.

What I really don't like are people who want to make special exceptions--from American Christians, it's usually something like, "We're a Christian nation! Think of the children!" blah blah blah. With American non-Christians, it's usually something like, "No, they're a special culture that has a recent/ancient history of being victims! Think of their feelings!"

I just think it's bullshit. And it's obviously bullshit, because the only people they ever call out on it are the people they don't like--hence the failure of the Feelings Police to condemn the atheists here who say things like "x-tian fucktard" and "you know full well what sort of ingorant fucktards you all really are." Because they don't care about that. They're just looking to score points against Christianity, so they rail against Christianity; the most convenient weapon for this news story was the 'you can't offend peoples' religious beliefs!!!!!!!' line.

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(July 6, 2012 at 9:26 am)Kayenneh Wrote: To be fair, these dudes are Christians, are they not? Did they not do this because they wanted to ridicule a faith they don't belong to? And they most definitely displayed a severe case of fucktard-ness, so why not call them what they are?

Man, if that's the standard, then you should be calling almost every atheist here 'fucktards'. I'll just hold my breath waiting for you to act consistent with the principle you've just given.

Assholes calling assholes assholes, and I'm the asshole on the sidelines calling them both assholes. And?

(July 6, 2012 at 9:33 am)CliveStaples Wrote: Man, if that's the standard, then you should be calling almost every atheist here 'fucktards'. I'll just hold my breath waiting for you to act consistent with the principle you've just given.

You're making an invalid point. It's a different thing to come as a believer to an atheist forum and be challanged intellectually than to actually go univited to a gathering just to make an insult. That is juvienile behaviour, and though I might agree that some here stoop to childish levels, you are on their turf, after all.

(July 6, 2012 at 6:01 am)CliveStaples Wrote: ...but hopefully you're not seriously suggesting that Islamic sensibilities are entitled to deference. Especially if that deference is only selectively required.

Not any more than x-tard superstitions are. Which means not at all.

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(July 6, 2012 at 9:33 am)CliveStaples Wrote:

(July 6, 2012 at 9:26 am)Kayenneh Wrote: To be fair, these dudes are Christians, are they not? Did they not do this because they wanted to ridicule a faith they don't belong to? And they most definitely displayed a severe case of fucktard-ness, so why not call them what they are?

Man, if that's the standard, then you should be calling almost every atheist here 'fucktards'. I'll just hold my breath waiting for you to act consistent with the principle you've just given.

They are ignorant fucktards because they can't see out their ass enough to recognize that their (and your) superstitions are just as preposterous as the others'.

(July 6, 2012 at 9:54 am)Kayenneh Wrote: You're making an invalid point. It's a different thing to come as a believer to an atheist forum and be challanged intellectually than to actually go univited to a gathering just to make an insult. That is juvienile behaviour, and though I might agree that some here stoop to childish levels, you are on their turf, after all.

Oh, right, because it would be so different if they did this to a group of Muslims who went to "religious debate night" at a public forum.

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(July 6, 2012 at 9:59 am)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: Not any more than x-tard superstitions are. Which means not at all.

Glad we're on the same page!

And I'm really honored by your refusal out of respect to write the name of Christ. That is so touching.

(July 6, 2012 at 9:08 am)CliveStaples Wrote:

Quote:I was pointing out the sheer stupidity of the people who planned that stunt and the sheer bad taste of it.

Oh, so people are supposed to respect others' religious beliefs? And maybe not call them 'x-tian fucktards'? Sure are a lot of conflicting standards of deference around here.

Absolutely not...muslims are just as big a bunch of shitheads as xtians.

However, when 15 jesus freaks pull a stunt like that they should not be surprised to see a few rocks flying their way.

Please Min, they can't aim for shit, that's the whole point of burying them up to their necks before the rocks are thrown.

(July 6, 2012 at 11:14 am)Minimalist Wrote: Absolutely not...muslims are just as big a bunch of shitheads as xtians.

However, when 15 jesus freaks pull a stunt like that they should not be surprised to see a few rocks flying their way.

Ah, so if you offend us enough, you shouldn't be surprised to see a few rocks thrown your way, right?

To me, one of the funny things about this is that about two thirds of Dearborn's Arab population is Christian (mostly Lebanese Marionites). Maybe the visible-from-the-street spaghetti-strapped singer at the nearby Arab festival talent competition should have given someone a clue that the festival wasn't attended solely by fundamentalist jihadis.

Dearborn does need to come up with a policy to better handle this sort of thing, it won't be the last time.