Seriously, up to this point, show me exactly what Zen said that put my hide in it's place...

The faith of his unseen posts makes me believe you're a prime candidate for a sheeple...

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(July 21, 2012 at 6:20 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Sure, why not?
In the Bible it says the two daughters of Abraham got him drunk and made love to him so that they may bear his children and God was apparently ok with this... explain.
I await your reply with a giddy sense of impending victory.

Who claimed to know God's opinion on that matter?

(July 21, 2012 at 6:16 am)catfish Wrote: You can make hollow claims till the cows come home. Claiming victory the absence of victory is delusional.

You're gonna have to show something of substance.

What part of the bible would you like to discuss?

For the record, even though a lifelong atheist I'd always assumed that a book that so many millions had supposedly based their lives on had to make sense. Afterall who would base their life on nonsense?

Then I started to read it.

(July 21, 2012 at 6:20 am)catfish Wrote:

(July 21, 2012 at 6:20 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Sure, why not?
In the Bible it says the two daughters of Abraham got him drunk and made love to him so that they may bear his children and God was apparently ok with this... explain.
I await your reply with a giddy sense of impending victory.

Who claimed to know God's opinion on that matter?

Well the fact he'd been quite active up until that point making the effort to destroy a whole town and Abrahams wife would seem to indicate he didn't mind two girls having incestial relations with their father too much... even though the Bible states hes against that kind of thing.
Please, explain.

(July 21, 2012 at 6:24 am)Zen Badger Wrote: What part of the bible would you like to discuss?

For the record, even though a lifelong atheist I'd always assumed that a book that so many millions had supposedly based their lives on had to make sense. Afterall who would base their life on nonsense?

Then I started to read it.

You pick, the OP started with a strawman and and ad-hom which I addressed and not one person has refuted.

Start with why a person would claim Christians think sex and/or nudity is wrong if you want a challenge. Or conceded the points I brought up and think of something else.

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(July 21, 2012 at 6:27 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Well the fact he'd been quite active up until that point making the effort to destroy a whole town and Abrahams wife would seem to indicate he didn't mind two girls having incestial relations with their father too much... even though the Bible states hes against that kind of thing.
Please, explain.

You strike me as one of these dumb sons-of-bitches who think they can come on here without having read the Bible cover to cover first and think they can attack it. You're gonna have to be direct, I'm not wasting my time unless you can show me where your ideas come from.

"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"

Next...

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I'll patiently wait while you guys get your opinions from evilbible.com...

(July 21, 2012 at 6:28 am)catfish Wrote:

(July 21, 2012 at 6:24 am)Zen Badger Wrote: What part of the bible would you like to discuss?

For the record, even though a lifelong atheist I'd always assumed that a book that so many millions had supposedly based their lives on had to make sense. Afterall who would base their life on nonsense?

Then I started to read it.

You pick, the OP started with a strawman and and ad-hom which I addressed and not one person has refuted.

Start with why a person would claim Christians think sex and/or nudity is wrong if you want a challenge. Or conceded the points I brought up and think of something else.

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(July 21, 2012 at 6:27 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Well the fact he'd been quite active up until that point making the effort to destroy a whole town and Abrahams wife would seem to indicate he didn't mind two girls having incestial relations with their father too much... even though the Bible states hes against that kind of thing.
Please, explain.

You strike me as one of these dumb sons-of-bitches who think they can come on here without having read the Bible cover to cover first and think they can attack it. You're gonna have to be direct, I'm not wasting my time unless you can show me where your ideas come from.

"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without eveidence"

Next...

Sorry "Lot" and his daughters. Easy mistake. Lot is son of Abraham.
All the known translations of the passage are right here, they all basically say the same thing:
http://bible.cc/genesis/19-32.htm

Of course, if you knew the Bible you wouldn't of needed me to get it for you which in itself is damning testament to your lack of knowledge on it really, isn't it?
Anyway, knock yourself out. Let me know what you think. :-)

Where did Cain find his wife?

(July 21, 2012 at 6:37 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Sorry "Lot" and his daughters. Easy mistake. Lot is son of Abraham.
All the known translations of the passage are right here, they all basically say the same thing:
http://bible.cc/genesis/19-32.htm

Of course, if you knew the Bible you wouldn't of needed me to get it for you which in itself is damning testament to your lack of knowledge on it really, isn't it?
Anyway, knock yourself out. Let me know what you think. :-)

That's the verse that describes the act. I want to know where you get the notion of what God thought about the situation...

You made claims about what God supposedly condoned, defend those claims.

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(July 21, 2012 at 6:37 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Where did Cain find his wife?

Unspecified in the Bible. Care to make the claim that it was incest without evidence?

(July 21, 2012 at 6:42 am)catfish Wrote:

(July 21, 2012 at 6:37 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Sorry "Lot" and his daughters. Easy mistake. Lot is son of Abraham.
All the known translations of the passage are right here, they all basically say the same thing:
http://bible.cc/genesis/19-32.htm

Of course, if you knew the Bible you wouldn't of needed me to get it for you which in itself is damning testament to your lack of knowledge on it really, isn't it?
Anyway, knock yourself out. Let me know what you think. :-)

That's the verse that describes the act. I want to know where you get the notion of what God thought about the situation...

You made claims about what God supposedly condoned, defend those claims.

I never said condoned, I said he was alright with it. He must of been. After all, he supposedly sees everything and appeared to have no objection to acting where he saw fit during that period... according to the Bible anyway. He obviously didn't see fit to act in this case. Or are you saying he didn't have the power to act?
Please, explain.

(July 21, 2012 at 6:42 am)catfish Wrote:

(July 21, 2012 at 6:37 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Where did Cain find his wife?

Unspecified in the Bible. Care to make the claim that it was incest without evidence?

And for good reason, according to the account there were only three people in the whole world, yet Cain was able to find a wife.

And founded an entire city, must have done a LOT of begatting.

(July 21, 2012 at 6:46 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: I never said condoned, I said he was alright with it. He must of been. After all, he supposedly sees everything and appeared to have no objection to acting where he saw fit during that period... according to the Bible anyway. He obviously didn't see fit to act in this case. Or are you saying he didn't have the power to act?

Jeez, "condoned" or "alright with it", you gonna play semantic games too?

So, are you suggesting that if God exists and is capable, He should baby-sit us? Do you need a baby-sitter?

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(July 21, 2012 at 6:49 am)Zen Badger Wrote: And for good reason, according to the account there were only three people in the whole world, yet Cain was able to find a wife.

Not true, I suggest you re-read the Bible if you make claims like that.