Again completely besides the point EVF.

Allow me to repeat myself:

Any religious or non religious garment says nothing on whether the belief is justified or not. There is no "false advertisement", only the statement what a person believes or doesn't believe. That does not warrant any taxation, its ridiculous.

(September 16, 2009 at 3:23 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: Sure, but besides the issue. How would you feel if the forums t-shirts would be taxed 890 pounds a year because of the way others look at them?

Our forum t-shirts aren't concealing our appearance, or being forced on women against their will. It's not being proposed because of the way other people look at them, it's being proposed because they are anti-social.

For anti social >read> alien. It's just different/ foreign.. more like: culturally/ racially divisive. Atheism is also separatist in it's way.

By false advertisement Leo, I was talking about what the Religion that the scarf represents stands for. I didn't just say false advertising, I said:

EvF Wrote:[...]the difference is the issue of false-advertising and the potential harm that can come from it.

(Emphasis added now). As I said, among other things - it's a symbol of injustice to women, all with no support. It gets a free ticket, it shouldn't. Whenever we think "Religion" we might as well think "Delusion" - and I don't think it's ever a good thing to give delusion - and potentially harmful delusion at that - a free ride. It just doesn't cut it to claim it's 'only a scarf'. It's what it represents that matters. It's not something that should just be taken out of context like that.

Religion should always be given a chance to defend itself, along with every other belief system - I'm not saying cut any ties completely, certainly not, it's never good to close off the mind - but until it can do that, until it can give evidence - I would not give the delusion that is religion any chance at a free ride to such immoral bullshit. A lot of immorality spurs from this delusional bullshit that is religion. Especially any of the three monotheistic ones.

The delusion of religion and the harm it does are connected. Delusional beliefs being given credit is not a good thing. The scarfs don't' just represent scarfs, they represent injustice, and the free ticket that the delusion that is religion gets in general. It shouldn't be fed a dime until it gives support IMO.

EvF

So Evie is a censorist now? Censor what he doesn't like?

And morality is subjective just as immorality is. You can't demand censorship because YOU evie view something as immoral.

Hmmm...I like your country! I really couldn't care less if they tax Muslims for their head scarves. I have such a disgust for those people I don't care what happens to them. They are stupid and ignorant and they would force their religion on anyone that is weak enough to have it forced upon them. If I believed in Hell I'd wish them there.

If taxing head scarfs is a way to discourage its use, in an attempt to encourage socializing (if that is indeed the cause), I would agree with it, but the tax itself is insanely high.

drylandfish Wrote:I have such a disgust for those people I don't care what happens to them. They are stupid and ignorant and they would force their religion on anyone that is weak enough to have it forced upon them. If I believed in Hell I'd wish them there.

When you say "such" people, what are you referring to exactly? I'm just curious.

Quote:In an ideal world, we wouldn't get religions that are so intolerant to women...in an ideal world we wouldn't have religion!!

Not in MY ideal world!---religion would be replaced with something far worse,such as a political personality cult or 50.

(September 16, 2009 at 11:35 pm)Retorth Wrote: If taxing head scarfs is a way to discourage its use, in an attempt to encourage socializing (if that is indeed the cause), I would agree with it, but the tax itself is insanely high.




When you say "such" people, what are you referring to exactly? I'm just curious.

I said I had such a disgust for those people. Those people being Muslims. It's a very radical and dangerous religion. The human race needs to just get rid of that whole belief system.

Quote:When you say "such" people, what are you referring to exactly? I'm just curious.

Anyone not like her of course.


One thing I can say about DLF; she's nothing if not predictable.