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Quote:Greek neo-Nazi party Golden Dawn has opened up an office in New York, the Greek Reporter reported this week.

According to Golden Dawn New York’s website (which prominently features the group’s Swastika-like symbol):

The Golden Dawn New York Chapter stands in support of the ideas and goals of the Golden Dawn Party in Greece, who received over 400,000 popular votes in the 2012 elections and currently has 18 representatives in the Greek parliament.

But they're neo-nazis. Why would anyone...well, Hitler did come to power via democratic election...

They have a right to do it.

(September 25, 2012 at 3:23 pm)Tino Wrote: They have a right to do it.

I never said they didn't. I just wonder why a group that openly claims to be an extension of nazis would be popular. Sure, fascist is one thing, but when you put in the word 'nazi' it just seems kind of... I don't mean to say that I know they are up to no good or anything like that. I just wonder why anyone would want to call themself a nazi.

Because it has been long enough for people to now play with fascists instead of reviling them.

The holocaust only ended sixty-seven years ago.

That's long enough for the majority of men and women who personally saw the results of such to die off.

And their children totally are ok with it too.

Maddening.

(September 25, 2012 at 3:29 pm)Darkstar Wrote: I just wonder why anyone would want to call themself a nazi.

Some neo-Nazi's suffer from the delusion that Hitler never killed as many people as is claimed.

Others know Hitler killed millions of people, and they either don't care that he did, or like the fact that he did.

(September 25, 2012 at 4:05 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Some neo-Nazi's suffer from the delusion that Hitler never killed as many people as is claimed.

Others know Hitler killed millions of people, and they either don't care that he did, or like the fact that he did.

So they're either delusional, deadly apathetic, or pure evil...

People will always need scapegoats. Why face up to the harsh reality (that whatever problem, be it losing a war or making your economy go up the shitter, is their own bloody fault) when they can blame some random group of people that they can antagonise with impunity?

Neo-nazis are fine by me, so long as they can rationally argue their cause, are open-minded and don't actuate their ideology into murder. By rationally argue their case I don't mean simply argue it but, rather, put forward a comprehensive and truthful case for their beliefs.

The downfall of Greece (yet again, for any historians around) is profoundly saddening, as is the lack of support for it. Greece practically invented the modern world, despite the catholic brainfart which proceeded out of it, and to see the greatest contributor to modernity in such harsh condition is rather worrying. I genuinely heard someone criticise the EU support policy, saying 'what did Greece ever provide us with?', I'll leave you on this somber allegory of society and judge it as you will.