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RE: One of the stupidest fucking replies ever.
October 16, 2012 at 11:00 am
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RE: One of the stupidest fucking replies ever.
October 16, 2012 at 11:02 am
(October 16, 2012 at 10:57 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: Suppose I go into a dark room and say to the person inside, "The sun has risen. Come out!" The person in darkness may say, "Where is the proof that there is light? First prove it to me; then I will come out." I may plead with him, "Please, please, just come out and see." But if he does not come out to see, he remains ignorant, waiting for proof. So, if you simple read Bhagavad-gita you will see everything. Come and see. Here is the proof.
I see what you're saying, but I can't really make the connection with your Holy book(s)(?) as I have no idea what your theology dictates or even what exactly you believe!
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RE: One of the stupidest fucking replies ever.
October 16, 2012 at 11:11 am
(October 16, 2012 at 10:57 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: Suppose I go into a dark room and say to the person inside, "The sun has risen. Come out!" The person in darkness may say, "Where is the proof that there is light? First prove it to me; then I will come out." I may plead with him, "Please, please, just come out and see." But if he does not come out to see, he remains ignorant, waiting for proof. So, if you simply read Bhagavad-gita you will see everything. Come and see. Here is the proof.
Use mirrors!
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RE: One of the stupidest fucking replies ever.
October 16, 2012 at 11:23 am
(October 16, 2012 at 11:11 am)pocaracas Wrote: (October 16, 2012 at 10:57 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: Suppose I go into a dark room and say to the person inside, "The sun has risen. Come out!" The person in darkness may say, "Where is the proof that there is light? First prove it to me; then I will come out." I may plead with him, "Please, please, just come out and see." But if he does not come out to see, he remains ignorant, waiting for proof. So, if you simply read Bhagavad-gita you will see everything. Come and see. Here is the proof.
Use mirrors!
Or tell the guy to stay out there long enough that he gets sunburnt!
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RE: One of the stupidest fucking replies ever.
October 16, 2012 at 12:18 pm
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Ever heard "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"? The sun has come up is not an extraordinary claim. In your example, the man refuses to verify whether the sun has come up or not. Most of us have read enough from holy books to know that their claims are false.
And no, we shouldn't just 'have faith'. This is self-delusion by which anyone could believe anything. Do not ask us to let go of our mental facilities in order to understand from your point of view, try to look at the evidence objectively yourself.
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RE: One of the stupidest fucking replies ever.
October 16, 2012 at 12:56 pm
(October 16, 2012 at 10:57 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: Suppose I go into a dark room and say to the person inside, "The sun has risen. Come out!" The person in darkness may say, "Where is the proof that there is light? First prove it to me; then I will come out." I may plead with him, "Please, please, just come out and see." But if he does not come out to see, he remains ignorant, waiting for proof.
Ofcourse, if you really wanted to convince him, all you have to do is take a picture of outside and show it to him.
(October 16, 2012 at 10:57 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: So, if you simply read Bhagavad-gita you will see everything. Come and see. Here is the proof.
Read it. Saw the movies. And the TV-series. I found it as full of shit as a child as I do now. What you call "proof" is nothing more than a bunch of bare, unfounded assertions often at odds with reality.
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RE: One of the stupidest fucking replies ever.
October 16, 2012 at 1:25 pm
(October 16, 2012 at 6:50 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: I accept Veda, transcendental knowledge, as the highest authority for absolute knowledge. If I want evidence about the nature of existence, I consider the "evidence" of modern science inferior to the evidence of veda.
The Vedas claim that the Moon is further away than the sun.
You really want to stick with that?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: One of the stupidest fucking replies ever.
October 16, 2012 at 1:55 pm
(October 16, 2012 at 1:25 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (October 16, 2012 at 6:50 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: I accept Veda, transcendental knowledge, as the highest authority for absolute knowledge. If I want evidence about the nature of existence, I consider the "evidence" of modern science inferior to the evidence of veda.
The Vedas claim that the Moon is further away than the sun.
You really want to stick with that?
Come on why not. The sun is a thinking god and the earth is flat and Thor makes lightening.
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RE: One of the stupidest fucking replies ever.
October 16, 2012 at 6:17 pm
You could tell him you see dinosaurs every day, and so does he!! You can use all 5 senses on them, including taste. Mmm, dinochicken dinner!
Seriously though, I'm sorry you had to deal with such a birdbrain (pun intended). Some people don't want to learn, and so they never will.
Here is an interesting resource for the dino-to-bird evolution to link for creationists who are too indoctrinated to get it. Of course they probably won't read it, but hey, it's worth a shot.. It covers pretty much everything.
http://www.abc.net.au/science/slab/dinobird/story.htm
What is your youtube channel, btw?
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RE: One of the stupidest fucking replies ever.
October 16, 2012 at 7:04 pm
More adventures in the world of stupidity, he replied to me again.
The comment he is replying to from me:
Quote:You are an absolute idiot. Hilariously so, in fact. What five senses can you apply to creationism, hm? Can't see it, hear it, feel it, touch it, or smell it. Yeah, I'll go with the evolution, where I can at least see it. One is better than none, which is what you prefer. I don't need faith to know it exists, because I have it, it IS all five of my senses. By the way, I am self-motivated in my education; curiosity and ambition are what led me to become educated, to seek knowledge and understanding, since my parents never had any part in my life whatsoever, given that they were dead throughout a vast majority of it.
In any case, the appeal to experience is a very, very weak argument, given that it bases itself in abstracts and unprovables. The worst kind of argument is not the one that can be disproven but rather the one that can be neither proven nor disproven, which is ultimately what defines you. That's not logic or reason; that's solipsistic ignorances, nothing more.
His reply.
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Re: Reply to your comment on: Creationists failing at attacking Bill Nye
How can see evolution? And yes indeed you can apply the five senses to creationism. I'm not going to explain them because you won't understand something you don't have evidence for. What made the first cell, what made that, and that... And so on. YOU DON'T KNOW! Therefore you have faith that it was all there before hand. You parents didn't affect your life, sorry to hear that. Maybe that's why you believe that your an idiot on accident...
And my reply just sent.
Quote:Lol I am sure you do. Actually no you're a liar, you cannot provide any of the senses because it's simply not possible. I do know, it's called observational science. I can actually witness evolution in a petri dish with a microscope, and did so several times in high school. I can witness evolution in documentaries. And I can actually apply all five senses to seeing a dinosaur. Sight, sound, taste, touch, and smell.
Ever eaten a chicken?
http://www.abc.net.au/science/slab/dinobird/story.htm
There you go. Evidence, information, empirical proof, none of which you can bring to bear at all because what you believe is a hollow lie. You can go ahead and use the "everything had to come from something" argument if you'd like, but then it begs the question who created the creator? Occam's Razor. C'mon. You aren't even giving me a challenge. It's like arguing with a twelve year old about calculaic equations. And yes, you are the twelve year old here.
Also to the Veda worshiper with the crazy-ass name: LOL!
No, that's all I've got for you.
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