Regarding work preacher christard extraordinaire:

"My god is the one true god.
Therefore I have the RIGHT to shove him up everyone else's ass just as deep as he is in mine."

"Praise jesus, thank you jesus!
Put it in my mouth jesus, I'll always swallow. I'm your sheep jesus, I'll swallow anything."

(November 5, 2012 at 5:52 pm)Ryantology Wrote:

Quote:My reason was because the Bible has already been written and I know that isn't the normative moral of the Bible's teaching.

If you think so, I feel quite certain that you have never actually read it.

Jesus sums up the entire Hebrew sciptures here:

Matt 22:36-40 - 36 "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?"
37 And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
38 This is the great and first commandment.
39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets."

I suspect you have a hell of a lot of ground to make up on the credibility front, having pissed it away in your last few posts here; certainly as far as I'm concerned. No amount of bible spam is going to repair the damage, even if that stuff counted for anything at the best of times anyway.

(November 6, 2012 at 1:53 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: Jesus sums up the entire Hebrew sciptures here:

Matt 22:36-40 - 36 "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?"
37 And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
38 This is the great and first commandment.
39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets."

When you subscribe to a superstition which requires you to believe that you are a filthy, degenerate sinner, a stupid beast who cannot function without heavenly authority, who does not deserve salvation whether or not he gets it, 'love thy neighbor as you love thyself' is no bar to committing crimes against others. Would not the love of self be classified as the sin of pride? Jesus' application of the Golden Rule, in fact, seems to encourage this sort of thing. Which is, of course, why all the religions of your God are so bloodthirsty.

(November 6, 2012 at 2:43 pm)Ryantology Wrote: When you subscribe to a superstition which requires you to believe that you are a filthy, degenerate sinner, a stupid beast who cannot function without heavenly authority, who does not deserve salvation whether or not he gets it,
'love thy neighbor as you love thyself' is no bar to committing crimes against others.

Two thoughts for this statement.

1. Regarding the "requires you to believe that you are a filthy, degenerate sinner, a stupid beast who cannot function without heavenly authority, who does not deserve salvation"

*That's just the first part. The second part of the Christian belief is that even though we do not deserve of earn God's affections...He loves us anyway...and for those who trust in Jesus as Lord and Savior He adopts us as His children.

2. Regarding the "love thy neighbor as you love thyself' is no bar to committing crimes against others."

*I don't see how this is sound logic.

(November 6, 2012 at 2:43 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Would not the love of self be classified as the sin of pride? Jesus' application of the Golden Rule, in fact, seems to encourage this sort of thing. Which is, of course, why all the religions of your God are so bloodthirsty.

I think you are twisting the words out of their context.

Given the context it seems fair to say he is not stating that selfishness is the greatest quality that the entire Hebrew scripture teaches.

To conclude that what Jesus is really teaching there is that we should we selfish seems just as intellectually fair as concluding that you believe there is a God by your statement, "Which is, of course, why all the religions of your God are so bloodthirsty."

I could say, "Aha! So you do believe there is a God because you've referred to my God as a real being!"

Sidebar: the average church does not strike me as bloodthirsty.