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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 9, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Oh cmon, this is so transparent it's painful. Drich doesn't feel like walking around in a mono-blend sack-cloth avoiding shellfish - so the laws don't apply.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 9, 2013 at 9:56 pm
(January 9, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Drich Wrote: Red herring. You were liberally calling everyone who dose not think as you do a Terrorist. Using that word to envoke an emotional response rather than discussing the particulars. I gave an example that not all 'terrorists' were as you were trying to protray them.
I gave you my definition of a terrorist according to a university moral ethics unit. I showed you how your comrades were classified as terrorists back in the day. Simple.
The emotions flow afterwards. I'm a little outraged by the fact that you need to justify their actions in order to keep yourself sane and still believing.
Quote:To which I demonstrated that 'terrorism' is a relitive term. One man's terorist is another revolutionary, Founding Father, trail breaker, Hero.
Killing innocent people is killing innocent people, Drich. What does one of the Ten Commandments say again??
Quote:Your whole arguement insists that your current way of life is some sort of absolute standard and all who oppose your understanding of what a soceity should be is commiting some sort of soceitial sin. What I have shown is your 'stanard' is about as vaild outside the borders of the community that embraces it, as current middle eastern social standards are to you. your tring to argue a trivial variable and do not even know it. This is why the rest of the world hates westerners. Because Who are you to say your way is the only right way?
Ah yes, moral relativism. So what are you trying to say in terms of where YOU stand? Do you believe in moral relativism and therefore the crusaders were right in killing everyone who thought differently because that was the morally right thing to be doing at that time? I ask you these questions because you seem very eager to not even discuss the crusaders. Well, tough luck. Changing the topic to moral relativism doesn't change the fact that civilians were smite in the name of your genocidal god. Please justify your sickening support of this.
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 9, 2013 at 11:57 pm
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(January 9, 2013 at 9:56 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Killing innocent people is killing innocent people, Drich. What does one of the Ten Commandments say again?? That no one is innocent. For all have broken the laws of God.
Game set match.
Quote:Ah yes, moral relativism. So what are you trying to say in terms of where YOU stand? Do you believe in moral relativism and therefore the crusaders were right in killing everyone who thought differently because that was the morally right thing to be doing at that time? I ask you these questions because you seem very eager to not even discuss the crusaders. Well, tough luck. Changing the topic to moral relativism doesn't change the fact that civilians were smite in the name of your genocidal god. Please justify your sickening support of this.
show me where I have supported this.
(January 9, 2013 at 7:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Oh cmon, this is so transparent it's painful. Drich doesn't feel like walking around in a mono-blend sack-cloth avoiding shellfish - so the laws don't apply.
No again if any of you people could bring yourself to actually read the commentary that defines the term "fulfill the Law." It means that Chirst has fulfilled the law (Or live the sinless life,) and became the ultimate sacerfice. thus freeing us from the law as the only means to righteousness. Christ furthermore says He does not abolish the Law Meaning it still applies Until the end of this age. Where what happens? Judgement, the seperation of wheat and weeds/The sheep and Goats. (Believers and everyone else.) What makes a believer a beliver? The fact that He loves God with all of his being and simply accepts the attonement offered.
What does this mean? Christians like the rest of you are in sin all of the time, and do NOTHING worthy enough to make them righteous by the way of any deed that can be done by any of us. Which makes our entrance into Heaven a gift given by God so none of us can boast. One that none deserves! That is what the section in Mat 5 means when you account for everything written in the passage, and do not like cherry pick as you and your buddies here are Desperatly trying to do.
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 10, 2013 at 12:14 am
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Asserting guilt does not establish guilt. You can wrench the text as hard as you like, I enjoy it, it just shows how insufficient your holy babble is in the first place, constantly requiring you and yours to beat it into submission. Drich, I want to be clear here, you can make your holy book say whatever you like, whatever gets you through the day, I really don't care - it's your own business-.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 10, 2013 at 12:15 am
(January 9, 2013 at 11:57 pm)Drich Wrote: (January 9, 2013 at 9:56 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Killing innocent people is killing innocent people, Drich. What does one of the Ten Commandments say again?? That no one is innocent. For all have broken the laws of God.
Game set match. Checkmate Atheists!
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 10, 2013 at 12:23 am
Drich Wrote:That no one is innocent. For all have broken the laws of God.
Game set match.
Thou shall not bloody murder. Your breed murdered innocent people in the name of your non-existent daddy. Immoral.
Quote:show me where I have supported this.
Post #16:
Quote:Christ allow the church to grow into a perverse monster for a reason
You justify the crusades.
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 10, 2013 at 12:30 am
(January 10, 2013 at 12:23 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Thou shall not bloody murder. Your breed murdered innocent people in the name of your non-existent daddy. Immoral. Murder is the unsanctioned taking of life. God gives the authority (Sanctions) leaders of nations to take life.
Try again.
Oh again remember as you pointed out the 10 commandment show that none are innocent. try and keep that in mind when constructing your next arguement.
Quote:show me where I have supported this.
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Quote:Christ allow the church to grow into a perverse monster for a reason
You justify the crusades.
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So the question was why do I support it? It seems to me you have your answer in my orginal quote 
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 10, 2013 at 12:32 am
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Would you kill me in the name of Christianity?
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 10, 2013 at 12:43 am
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(January 10, 2013 at 12:14 am)Rhythm Wrote: Asserting guilt does not establish guilt. You can wrench the text as hard as you like, I enjoy it, it just shows how insufficient your holy babble is in the first place, constantly requiring you and yours to beat it into submission. Drich, I want to be clear here, you can make your holy book say whatever you like, whatever gets you through the day, I really don't care - it's your own business-. It's called Hermeneutics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics
Hermeneutics are needed when ever one reads a literal translation orginaly written in another language.
(January 10, 2013 at 12:32 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Would you kill me in the name of Christianity?
no
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 10, 2013 at 12:53 am
Drich Wrote:no
Why won't you if other Christians would have?
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