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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 1:11 am
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No, I have a solid grasp of english and idiom........what is it that I've failed to explain to you here?
You could, without assigning any given thing a positive moral value, call it a "moral act", and then, once it's been established or agreed upon (ideally) that morality applies to this act....you could go on the make a case for a negative moral value judgement, in essence call the act "immoral". You would not be contradicting yourself, no dishonesty (intellectual or otherwise) or delusion would be required......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 1:20 am
Really man. If you have a "solid" grasp of English and idiom, then you should recognise that those things that I would consider are subject to "moral interpretation" are either moral or immoral. As such, I CANNOT call an immoral act a "moral act", PERIOD...
If you want a different answer, then change your wording...
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 1:23 am
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(January 17, 2013 at 1:11 am)Rhythm Wrote: You could, without assigning any given thing a positive moral value, call it a "moral act", and then, once it's been established or agreed upon (ideally) that morality applies to this act....you could go on the make a case for a negative moral value judgement, in essence call the act "immoral". You would not be contradicting yourself, no dishonesty (intellectual or otherwise) or delusion would be required......
Just as you could say someone has incredible luck, without specifying whether that's "good" luck or "bad" luck. As we're constantly being reminded, context is key.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 1:25 am
Will Jesus come back on a white horse?
Well I guess the odds are better than I thought. Apparently Jesus does indeed have a white horse.
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 1:25 am
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2013 at 1:26 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Why would I change my wording? It's common use, well understood, mechanically accurate, and very easy to explain (should anyone, gasp, have any trouble).
What happened here, is that you thought you had something to say when you didn't.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 1:29 am
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(January 17, 2013 at 1:25 am)Rhythm Wrote: Why would I change my wording? It's common use, well understood, mechanically accurate, and very easy to explain (should anyone, gasp, have any trouble).
What happened here, is that you thought you had something to say when you didn't.
No, what has happened here is that you have had your thought processes dicatated to you. I will NOT call an immoral act moral while you seem to have no problem being one of the sheeple...
"freethinker" - one of the biggest lies sold to fucktards everywhere...
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(January 17, 2013 at 1:23 am)Stimbo Wrote: (January 17, 2013 at 1:11 am)Rhythm Wrote: You could, without assigning any given thing a positive moral value, call it a "moral act", and then, once it's been established or agreed upon (ideally) that morality applies to this act....you could go on the make a case for a negative moral value judgement, in essence call the act "immoral". You would not be contradicting yourself, no dishonesty (intellectual or otherwise) or delusion would be required......
Just as you could say someone has incredible luck, without specifying whether that's "good" luck or "bad" luck. As we're constantly being reminded, context is key.
Context... lol
Question: would you call something you thought to be "immoral" a "moral act" or an "act of morality"???
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 1:38 am
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2013 at 1:41 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You don't have to call an immoral act moral, this is what I've been trying to explain to you. By calling something immoral you have identified it as a moral act...... You don't have to call it a moral act, use some other phrase to convey the concept (good luck, and I'd be interested to see what you come up with in that regard). You will still be leveraging the same concept under a different name - and that by which we call a rose...my love.
You really think that your level of competence in english is some place to toss in a freethinker jab? If we decided to be "freethinkers" (at least whatever you seem to think that means) with regards to language we would be incapable of communicating with each other. Here again you're engaging in the same nonsense that led to all this in the first place. You have nothing to say - but you seem to be convinced that you do.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 1:44 am
(January 17, 2013 at 1:38 am)Rhythm Wrote: You don't have to call an immoral act moral, this is what I've been trying to explain to you. By calling something immoral you have identified it as a moral act...... You don't have to call it a moral act, use some other phrase to convey the concept (good luck, and I'd be interested to see what you come up with in that regard). You will still be leveraging the same concept under a different name - and that by which we call a rose...my love.
You really think that your level of competence in english is some place to toss in a freethinker jab? If we decided to be "freethinkers" (at least whatever you seem to think that means) with regards to language we would be incapable of communicating with each other. Here again you're engaging in the same nonsense that led to all this in the first place. You have nothing to say - but you seem to be convinced that you do.
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 1:45 am
(January 17, 2013 at 1:38 am)Rhythm Wrote: You have nothing to say - but you seem to be convinced that you do.
In my experience, those with the least to say seem to think they need to say it the loudest.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 1:55 am
(January 17, 2013 at 1:45 am)Stimbo Wrote: (January 17, 2013 at 1:38 am)Rhythm Wrote: You have nothing to say - but you seem to be convinced that you do.
In my experience, those with the least to say seem to think they need to say it the loudest.
what the fuck?
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