How did it affect your vocal range?

(February 3, 2013 at 12:43 pm)TaraJo Wrote: I can't imagine meat having a high enough concentration of estrogen to have any significant effect on me. I know premarin is pretty close to a natural source of estrogen since it's made from pregnant horse urine (that's where it gets its name from), but I've also heard there are other risks that go up with premarin, most notably breast cancer.

Thanks again.
I just wanted to comment on the beef in the US. It's suspected to be causing our girls to develope and go through menstration sooner. We have so many hormones and antibiotics in ours that some countries refuse to accept it.
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(February 3, 2013 at 7:36 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: How did it affect your vocal range?

Doesn't. I've had to practice a lot to get my voice where I want it. I still have to watch myself to bring it up an octave or two from time to time. I can still do a deep, manly sounding voice if I want to, but it sounds really freaky (my boyfriend said "it's like a kitten barking!"). There is a surgery that's supposed to be able to help with voice, but with enough practice and know-how, it isn't really needed. It's just a trick of learning to speak through your head instead of through your chest.

Candi here was really encouraging for me when I started and she gives a lot of great voice tips on her channel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbaj4tIX1kw

Although, hormones do change voice for trans men. They get that deep, manly voice when they get onto testosterone.

(February 3, 2013 at 11:18 pm)catfish Wrote: Thanks again.
I just wanted to comment on the beef in the US. It's suspected to be causing our girls to develope and go through menstration sooner. We have so many hormones and antibiotics in ours that some countries refuse to accept it.
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Heh... if you want a far more likely culprit... look to Milk.

Chock full of all sorts of lovely hormones, staple part of an american schoolchild diet. Even the poor ones get it in their cute little school trays.

Not all of them get more than a paltry amount of meat (maybe a few petite sausages?)

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My voice has (according to my Asha) gotten a lot softer and more effeminate in the year that we've been together. But that's due to inflection and being completely comfortable expressing myself as a woman in public, and has nothing to do with HRT.

Infact, I'm regressing a bit lately... practice makes perfect, and a hermit doesn't get much practice.

(February 2, 2013 at 5:11 am)Aractus Wrote:

(February 1, 2013 at 9:00 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Ok, I think I get it.

What you're saying is that because prostitutes work in a potentially dangerous industry they should not expect protection under the law.

Is that right?

You obviously skipped step 5 again.

It's a simple question Danny, are you unable to answer it?

OK Zen, let's try a new paradigm.

If a person chooses to be a prostitute, knowing they are entering a potentially dangerous occupation in which they are literally required to be alone with testosterone-induced males who are ready to burst, they expect to be treated badly in the first place, as a disposable resource for men to use. Entering the occupation they accept the obvious risks inherent in it. Of course if they're the victim of a crime, the criminal should be punished.

What part of that, exactly, don't you understand or don't you agree with?????

(February 5, 2013 at 5:15 am)Aractus Wrote: OK Zen, let's try a new paradigm.

If a person chooses to be a prostitute, knowing they are entering a potentially dangerous occupation in which they are literally required to be alone with testosterone-induced males who are ready to burst, they expect to be treated badly in the first place, as a disposable resource for men to use. Entering the occupation they accept the obvious risks inherent in it. Of course if they're the victim of a crime, the criminal should be punished.

What part of that, exactly, don't you understand or don't you agree with?????

So when you said this

Quote:as for "prostitutes right's", as far as I'm concerned, they don't deserve to have any.

You didn't really mean it then?

I simply meant I don't think they deserve special protection, or anything like that, not that they should NOT have the rights that everyone has under the law.

(February 5, 2013 at 7:00 am)Aractus Wrote: I simply meant I don't think they deserve special protection, or anything like that, not that they should NOT have the rights that everyone has under the law.

I don't believe they are asking for special treatment are they.

Though your whole rant about prostitutes being vile unsavoury vermin(I paraphrase) would lead people to think that you think they are undeserving of equal treatment under the law.

And you wouldn't want people to think that of you...... would you.

(February 5, 2013 at 7:14 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Though your whole rant about prostitutes being vile unsavoury vermin(I paraphrase) would lead people to think that you think they are undeserving of equal treatment under the law.

Well they are vile unsavoury vermin (and you get kudos for the good paraphrase bro), and they're all on drugs too - and that fact means they shouldn't be allowed to appeal to the law FYI - I remember making that point before, thus I'll explain it for you.

If you want to appeal to the law you're supposed to come with clean hands. If you've been doing illegal activities and during the course of those illegal activities someone steals from you, assaults you, or otherwise wrongs you, the law isn't going to help you - and nor should it. The law isn't there for people who are doing the wrong thing, it's for those who are doing the right thing. So yes, in a sense by doing something illegal you do indeed give up the rights you have to protection under the law. The situation is the same for a woman that takes out a retraining order against an abusive man - if she moves back in with said man, she can't then have him arrested for breaking the retraining order, it's an abuse of the courts and a waste of taxpayer money, time and resources to help someone who is doing the wrong thing. Same concept.