(February 6, 2013 at 9:11 am)Aractus Wrote:

(February 6, 2013 at 8:15 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Quite a few of the members here are self confessed regular users of recreational drugs, are they also degenerate slime?

That's it Zen set up your pathetic straw man...

Quote:IMHO you're just using the drug issue as an excuse, as you usually do when you make grandiose statement about other groups of people(gays spring to mind for some reason)

Not at all. All I'm telling you is the truth. If someone is high on drugs AND gets assaulted, they cannot then go and sue the person who injured them because they were doing something illegal when the alleged assault took place. Simple. The other person still gets charged with a crime, but can't be sued for personal injury, etc.

Quote:I didn't say my prostitute friend didn't use illict drugs did I. In actual fact she did, as many of my friends and acquaintances did before and since.

You know you've made a terrible argument when a kitten face-palm's itself Zen. If you own cats you may think seeing them face-palm themselves over and over in your house is "normal kitty behaviour", I assure you that it isn't.

So if a person gets stoned and then goes down to the shops where he is assaulted he has no legal recourse for compensation?

I think you need to back that assertion up with the relevant legislation Danny boy.

(February 8, 2013 at 5:00 am)apophenia Wrote:


You know, one wonders why a Christian would want to spend a lot of time visiting an atheist forum — besides to proselytize. However, given Daniel's obsession with prostitutes and visiting brothels, it's beginning to make some sense.

Most religious persons are just repressed perverts?

Could be onto something there apophenia

(February 8, 2013 at 8:54 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So if a person gets stoned and then goes down to the shops where he is assaulted he has no legal recourse for compensation?

I think you need to back that assertion up with the relevant legislation Danny boy.

In Australia, if he drove to the shops, or even rode his pushbike to the shops he can be charged with DUI retrospectively and loose his divers license. I forget what police call it when they charge you with DUI after the event, it typically happens when you leave the scene of an accident without reporting it, but legally it can happen in other situations as the above example too. You can also be done for DUI while you're in the hospital after the accident - and in fact I know someone this happened to recently, and they've lost their license (as they should have).

(February 9, 2013 at 2:44 am)Aractus Wrote:

(February 8, 2013 at 8:54 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So if a person gets stoned and then goes down to the shops where he is assaulted he has no legal recourse for compensation?

I think you need to back that assertion up with the relevant legislation Danny boy.

In Australia, if he drove to the shops, or even rode his pushbike to the shops he can be charged with DUI retrospectively and loose his divers license. I forget what police call it when they charge you with DUI after the event, it typically happens when you leave the scene of an accident without reporting it, but legally it can happen in other situations as the above example too. You can also be done for DUI while you're in the hospital after the accident - and in fact I know someone this happened to recently, and they've lost their license (as they should have).

Which of course has absolutely fuckall to do with the point of whether he is entitled to equal protection under the law for what happens to him afterward at the shop.

Nice red herring. How much for the gourd?

If you're doing something illegal, and something bad happens to you, your rights to compensation are either reduced or completely diminished. If you're high on drugs and you get assaulted, that's too fucking bad for you, you should have thought about that before you got high. Courts don't exist to help people who are doing illegal things, they exist to help people who do the right thing.

Pretty much the same thing that your insurance company would do if you were DUI and had an accident.

(February 9, 2013 at 6:27 am)Aractus Wrote: If you're doing something illegal, and something bad happens to you, your rights to compensation are either reduced or completely diminished. If you're high on drugs and you get assaulted, that's too fucking bad for you, you should have thought about that before you got high. Courts don't exist to help people who are doing illegal things, they exist to help people who do the right thing.

Pretty much the same thing that your insurance company would do if you were DUI and had an accident.

No, at least in America, and I would hope most of the secular west there is a presumption of innocence. Compassion in dealing with people who do the wrong thing, rather than say what Iran or China does with their accused, is what separates democracies from fascist states.

Having been falsely accused, when I was a kid in private school, and having that entire student body hate me for ending a play day, over something I did not do, your attitude is scary. You protect the wrongdoers, not because they are innocent, you protect them because you yourself would want the same if accused yourself.

Courts are there to protect rights, everyone's rights, even the accused.

(February 9, 2013 at 6:27 am)Aractus Wrote: If you're doing something illegal, and something bad happens to you, your rights to compensation are either reduced or completely diminished. If you're high on drugs and you get assaulted, that's too fucking bad for you, you should have thought about that before you got high. Courts don't exist to help people who are doing illegal things, they exist to help people who do the right thing.

Pretty much the same thing that your insurance company would do if you were DUI and had an accident.

Regardless, you were challenged to back up your claim with some evidence from actual law, which you've twice failed to do. (Maybe more, I didn't bother to check how long you've been ducking this.) And now you've gone back to making bare assertions. Put up or shut up.

(February 9, 2013 at 12:57 pm)apophenia Wrote:

(February 9, 2013 at 6:27 am)Aractus Wrote: If you're doing something illegal, and something bad happens to you, your rights to compensation are either reduced or completely diminished. If you're high on drugs and you get assaulted, that's too fucking bad for you, you should have thought about that before you got high. Courts don't exist to help people who are doing illegal things, they exist to help people who do the right thing.

Pretty much the same thing that your insurance company would do if you were DUI and had an accident.

Regardless, you were challenged to back up your claim with some evidence from actual law, which you've twice failed to do. (Maybe more, I didn't bother to check how long you've been ducking this.) And now you've gone back to making bare assertions. Put up or shut up.

Don't worry Apo, this is about as good as Dannys arguments get.

Oh well

This is the extent of your questions? Well damn... either you're a bunch of know-it-alls, you haven't a clue, or curiosity's just not your thing.

I've been here almost 4 years now, i figure yall for a healthy mix of the three.

(February 10, 2013 at 5:31 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: This is the extent of your questions? Well damn... either you're a bunch of know-it-alls, you haven't a clue, or curiosity's just not your thing.

I've been here almost 4 years now, i figure yall for a healthy mix of the three.

Does having your feet massaged excite you?