The Mormon girl acts VERY interested in you. She is beautiful and personable. She convinces you to join the Mormon (LDS) religion.

So you join the LDS Church... Only to find out that she has a "fiancee" how lives a long distance away -- and he has proposed to her.. And so now she is breaking it off with you. So now you are a Mormon, but you look a little like a fool. Several different members offer to help you out by setting you up with various women -- all divorced, all with children, and not nearly as beautiful or personable as the woman you joined the Church for.

I was impressed by the Mormons, before I knew much about the religion. I even moved to Utah to get a Masters in horticulture and check it out further.

I had a number of beautiful girls flirt with me and try to get me to join the LDS religion. When I got to know them better I found out that all of them had "serious" LDS boyfriends ("fiancee's?"). They abstained from "sex" --if you consider anal, and oral sex, not sex.. And some of them did not abstain from sex at all -- but lied about being virgins and argued that they looked like they weren't virgins because they used tampons.

And some of the LDS guys would fool around with non-LDS girls, sort of use them as sex toys, get them to join the Mormon religion -- then dump them after they had joined. These weren't the sorts of girls that they really wanted to marry. They just liked to use these girls as sex toys before they settled down into marriage with an LDS girl. Utah is the porn capital of the US, with more porn sales per capita of any state in the nation. I found the people there to be a strange combination of things.

So where am I going with all of this? Jodi Arias got into a relationship with a Mormon guy -- who apparently did the same thing to her. He had oral "sex", anal "sex" -- except regular vaginal sex -- with her for 4 months. Then she actually joined the Mormon Church for him. He had kept her his secret up to that point. Then he dumped her for another Mormon girl.

The prosecution has argued that she dumped him. And that she had "used" him as the sex toy... And that she was this psycho stalker.. It sure sounds to me like the Mormons -- who are expert spin doctors -- are turning things around on her.

Now I am not arguing that it was ok that she shot and stabbed him to death -- but I certainly see how the who thing would make her very angry. Maybe he didn't deserve to get shot and stabbed to death but I have a hunch that he was not merely an innocent victim of a crazy woman.

So, it seems that Jodi Arias admitted to killing him in self-defense, and this self-defense involved stabbing him 25 times, shooting him in the head, and slitting his throat. Something about all of that doesn't seem to indicate self-defense to me. The fact that at some point she took photos of him bleeding to death (which she then deleted) also don't support the self-defense claim.

I've got to say that even if the guy did mess her around and use her, he doesn't deserve to die because of it.

Was there an article about this? Because before Tiberius responded, I was going to politely ask wtf you were talking about.

(April 21, 2013 at 4:49 pm)Tiberius Wrote: So, it seems that Jodi Arias admitted to killing him in self-defense, and this self-defense involved stabbing him 25 times, shooting him in the head, and slitting his throat. Something about all of that doesn't seem to indicate self-defense to me. The fact that at some point she took photos of him bleeding to death (which she then deleted) also don't support the self-defense claim.

I've got to say that even if the guy did mess her around and use her, he doesn't deserve to die because of it.

No, it wasn't self-defense. She was angry that he had used her.

I am not arguing that the murder was in any way justified. But I think I understand what made her so angry.

Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_..._Alexander

This? Killing of Travis Alexander

(Just googled it. Never heard anything about it until just now.)
EDIT: Ninja'd by Tiberius

(April 21, 2013 at 4:54 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Was there an article about this? Because before Tiberius responded, I was going to politely ask wtf you were talking about.

Oops. I had assumed that everybody already knew the story.

Never assume about news. I listen to one podcast by ex Mormons "religiously" and another irregularly, and I didn't know.

sooo.. douche bag lures girls into joining his club, then ditches her... she kills douche as revenge.
Couldn't she just quit the club and get on with her life, like most other girls do when they get dumped by douches?

(April 21, 2013 at 5:03 pm)pocaracas Wrote: sooo.. douche bag lures girls into joining his club, then ditches her... she kills douche as revenge.
Couldn't she just quit the club and get on with her life, like most other girls do when they get dumped by douches?

I guess its one of those no way out kinda club/church.