(June 2, 2013 at 12:34 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: Just answere on thing:Are you to stupid or simply unwilling to give a reply with counterarguments?! And why waste time annoying people on a forum?

Waat exactly am I supposed to be countering. You were just forming conjecture at that point.

Quote:So a person creating posters inciting people to lynch black people is not creating something racist?

Wait, I know what game we're playing. This is where I say "Nope" and you respond with "Well then fuck you bla bla emotional garbage."

Quote:How?

Because I did not say that the concept of 'race' when referring to humans means racism does not exist or that it's okay.

Quote:In the half year that I have been on this forum, I have contributed more to it than a useless, negative attention seeking, homophobic troll like you could ever.

More conjecture.

Stay off the forums when you're drunk. You get really confrontational, as well as an inflated sense of ego/intelligence.

(June 2, 2013 at 12:44 am)Gilgamesh Wrote: Waat exactly am I supposed to be countering. You were just forming conjecture at that point.

No I am not, all your posts are nothing put the endless repeat of a non funny meme, homophobic slurs by calling people "faggots" and vague statements which could mean anything.

Quote:Wait, I know what game we're playing. This is where I say "Nope" and you respond with "Well then fuck you bla bla emotional garbage."

Nope, I would like to read your argument to why a poster iciting people to murder black people on the grounds that they are infirior - is not racist.

Quote:Because I did not say that the concept of 'race' when referring to humans means racism does not exist or that it's okay.

And why did you not state that at the start!?

Quote:More conjecture.

nope, the truth.

Quote:Stay off the forums when you're drunk. You get really confrontational, as well as an inflated sense of ego/intelligence.

Wow, internet psychologist.

I have so far made my replies calm and haven resorted to the usual anger I direct against homophobic troll like you. I simply want explainations for your vague statements and anweres when calling them into question.

pls stop. germans you're drunk. go home germans.

(June 2, 2013 at 12:53 am)Gilgamesh Wrote: pls stop. germans you're drunk. go home germans.

I am not. I just got out of bed, certainly hungover. But that does not disqualify me from asking you these questions.

And simply calling ma a drunkard, is nothing but a dishonest attempt to chicken out of a debate by accusing the opponent of incompetence or inmoral conduct (like calling an opponent a nazi)

now to the questions:

(June 2, 2013 at 12:44 am)Gilgamesh Wrote: Waat exactly am I supposed to be countering. You were just forming conjecture at that point.

No I am not, all your posts are nothing put the endless repeat of a non funny meme, homophobic slurs by calling people "faggots" and vague statements which could mean anything.

Quote:Wait, I know what game we're playing. This is where I say "Nope" and you respond with "Well then fuck you bla bla emotional garbage."

Nope, I would like to read your argument to why a poster iciting people to murder black people on the grounds that they are infirior - is not racist.

Quote:Because I did not say that the concept of 'race' when referring to humans means racism does not exist or that it's okay.

And why did you not state that at the start!?

Quote:More conjecture.

nope, the truth.

Quote:Stay off the forums when you're drunk. You get really confrontational, as well as an inflated sense of ego/intelligence.

Wow, internet psychologist.

I have so far made my replies calm and haven resorted to the usual anger I direct against homophobic troll like you. I simply want explainations for your vague statements and anweres when calling them into question.

@OP.

What I am hearing from you is that the word "racist" has by popular use, been twisted, abused to the point of no meaning. I am inclined to agree, that the initial good intention of wiping out racism has now been corrupted and is used more as a verbal weapon. Gone are the days when an innocent joke can be told and the use of a word in one language is a major affront in another.......

(June 2, 2013 at 12:29 am)cratehorus Wrote: what a shock!!!! im guessing this has more too do with you being called a racist all the time rather then whether or not the word should be used at all.

Your response is exactly what I'm talking about, and it's because of attitudes like yours that I have been called a racist. You heard a topic about race, and immediately jumped to me being a racist. I implore you however, to actually read my post and show me where I was being a racist. Quote me. Go for it.

This is why, like I mentioned, the word is becoming less powerful. I really didn't say anything that was worthy of being called a racist, yet you tossed the word out all willy nilly.

But honestly, I could care less about being called a racist. I am confident that I am not. What I care more about is the fact that you shutdown the conversation when you call anyone racist that simply wants to talk about the issue. The topic is a very complex issue, and you shouting at people if they say even the slightest wrong thing is not helping to further the discussion. Imagine if we were learning math, and every time you got a wrong answer someone shouted at you, "How the fuck do you not know math?!? You're a stupid piece of shit!?!?" It's not very conducive to the learning process. Same goes when you shout at someone for being a racist piece of shit. Feel free to tell them they are wrong and why. But shouting at them and hurling insults does nothing but create a further rift. And here's the funny thing too. Being tolerant requires tolerance of the intolerant.

(June 2, 2013 at 12:29 am)cratehorus Wrote: if people in general call you something over and over again to the point that your sick of quote "everyone" end quote using the word than it probably has something more too do with you and not society as a whole
.

Just fundamentally not true. Just look back seventy years. If you were a black dude walking down the street in the 1940's there's a good chance that you were hatefully called a nigger by people in that society. Would it have been his fault that the people in the era called him a nigger, or the fault of society?

And look, just for the record. I have never been called a racist to my face. It always been over the interwebs that I've been called a racist. Go figure.

(June 2, 2013 at 12:29 am)cratehorus Wrote: .....you stupid fat ugly racist

I haven't been on this forum very long and I haven't made many posts yet. This is the first thread I have made. In fact, this might be my first time conversing with you on this thread. I have no pictures of myself on this site either. Yet I find it amusing that think that you can grade my physical appearance though you haven't ever seen me, measure my level of intelligence without even having understood me, and judge my morals just in this one post alone. I hate to tell you but just in the way you have acted you seem as close minded as the racists you vehemently hate. Don't make assumptions about me when I have made none of you.

(June 2, 2013 at 12:34 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: In the half year that I have been on this forum, I have contributed more to it than a useless, negative attention seeking, homophobic troll like you could ever.

You need to calm down, I've lost count how many times you've played that card.

(June 2, 2013 at 1:03 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:

(June 2, 2013 at 12:34 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: In the half year that I have been on this forum, I have contributed more to it than a useless, negative attention seeking, homophobic troll like you could ever.

You need to calm down, I've lost count how many times you've played that card.

Hardly ever.

Show me where I did.