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Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
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RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm (This post was last modified: June 8, 2013 at 1:42 pm by ideologue08.)
(June 8, 2013 at 1:36 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: Does that mean I'm growing on you already?
Maybe. Maybe not.
(June 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Is that a no?
Stop flaming and you will not get flame back.
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RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:44 pm
(June 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:
(June 8, 2013 at 1:36 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: Does that mean I'm growing on you already?
Maybe. Maybe not.

You certainly are a fan of vagueness, I'll give you that.Big Grin
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RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:44 pm
(June 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: ...yeah actually, it's usually blatantly transparent what their motivations are.

There's a reason lobbyists aren't popular.
No it isn't...I'm talking about general citizens. I don't know how it works elsewhere but in Britain, anyone can lobby for anything directly to their member of parliament.
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RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:45 pm
(June 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Stop flaming and you will not get flame back.

lol, like a child.

fine. So it`s a no I guess.
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RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:46 pm
(June 8, 2013 at 1:44 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: You certainly are a fan of vagueness, I'll give you that.Big Grin
Lol you are entitled to your opinion Wink
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RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:46 pm
(June 8, 2013 at 1:44 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:
(June 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: ...yeah actually, it's usually blatantly transparent what their motivations are.

There's a reason lobbyists aren't popular.
No it isn't...I'm talking about general citizens. I don't know how it works elsewhere but in Britain, anyone can lobby for anything directly to their member of parliament.

Oh that's right. I was just over there last week, nice tour of parliament and everything. I love the whole "bulls gathered in a pen" style of governing you got there.

I'm from the US, there is no such thing as mysterious motives here when it comes to lobbying.
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RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm
Who has more influence over legislators...
A) A lobby group that donates millions to campaigns
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B) Private, concerned citizens writing letters or e-mails and making a few phone calls...
Hmmm... Let me think...
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RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm (This post was last modified: June 8, 2013 at 1:55 pm by ideologue08.)
(June 8, 2013 at 1:45 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: lol, like a child.
Oh the irony...
(June 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm)festive1 Wrote: Who has more influence over legislators...
A) A lobby group that donates millions to campaigns
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B) Private, concerned citizens writing letters or e-mails and making a few phone calls...
Hmmm... Let me think...
It's citizens here, at least in my constituency. We have community based lobby groups.
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RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:58 pm
(June 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:
(June 8, 2013 at 1:45 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: lol, like a child.
Oh the irony...
(June 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm)festive1 Wrote: Who has more influence over legislators...
A) A lobby group that donates millions to campaigns
-or-
B) Private, concerned citizens writing letters or e-mails and making a few phone calls...
Hmmm... Let me think...
It's citizens here, at least in my constituency. We have community based lobby groups.

Theoretically, the US does too. Each congressman/woman in the US represents the interests of their constituents.

In reality...
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RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 2:22 pm
The reality is most Americans can't name their own representatives and Senators or even understand the way our government actually works Undecided
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