RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2013 at 1:42 pm by ideologue08.)
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Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
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(June 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:(June 8, 2013 at 1:36 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: Does that mean I'm growing on you already?Maybe. Maybe not. You certainly are a fan of vagueness, I'll give you that.
freedomfromfallacy » I'm weighing my tears to see if the happy ones weigh the same as the sad ones.
(June 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: ...yeah actually, it's usually blatantly transparent what their motivations are.No it isn't...I'm talking about general citizens. I don't know how it works elsewhere but in Britain, anyone can lobby for anything directly to their member of parliament. (June 8, 2013 at 1:44 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:(June 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: ...yeah actually, it's usually blatantly transparent what their motivations are.No it isn't...I'm talking about general citizens. I don't know how it works elsewhere but in Britain, anyone can lobby for anything directly to their member of parliament. Oh that's right. I was just over there last week, nice tour of parliament and everything. I love the whole "bulls gathered in a pen" style of governing you got there. I'm from the US, there is no such thing as mysterious motives here when it comes to lobbying.
freedomfromfallacy » I'm weighing my tears to see if the happy ones weigh the same as the sad ones.
Who has more influence over legislators...
A) A lobby group that donates millions to campaigns -or- B) Private, concerned citizens writing letters or e-mails and making a few phone calls... Hmmm... Let me think... RE: Atheist on the Black Church vs Gay Rights
June 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2013 at 1:55 pm by ideologue08.)
(June 8, 2013 at 1:45 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: lol, like a child.Oh the irony... (June 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm)festive1 Wrote: Who has more influence over legislators...It's citizens here, at least in my constituency. We have community based lobby groups. (June 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:(June 8, 2013 at 1:45 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: lol, like a child.Oh the irony... Theoretically, the US does too. Each congressman/woman in the US represents the interests of their constituents. In reality...
freedomfromfallacy » I'm weighing my tears to see if the happy ones weigh the same as the sad ones.
The reality is most Americans can't name their own representatives and Senators or even understand the way our government actually works
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