I don't care if the Hebrews described anything as plaid and claimed god could fart ice cream. There is no such thing as an invisible magical super hero sky daddy.

(October 2, 2013 at 1:07 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm)Drich Wrote: Are you saying sputnik can attest to what was or was not in the atmosphere over 6000 years ago?

You think that the structure of the universe changed 6000 years ago??

Again the Garden of Eden was a preserve a sanctuary, that was created apart from the rest of the world It's sky could have very well have been vaulted. especially if science is correct is assuming that the earth was unlivable or most of it's existence.

God created a garden and covered it to protect everything in it till the rest of the planet matured.

(October 2, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 1:07 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: You think that the structure of the universe changed 6000 years ago??

Again the Garden of Eden was a preserve a sanctuary, that was created apart from the rest of the world It's sky could have very well have been vaulted. especially if science is correct is assuming that the earth was unlivable or most of it's existence.

God created a garden and covered it to protect everything in it till the rest of the planet matured.

Bullshit. The planet was formed from cosmic events having nothing to do with your ancient comic book.

The earth is 4 billion years old. Nothing in that comic book demonstrates any lick of knowledge of modern science.

(October 2, 2013 at 1:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Drich Wrote: Again the Garden of Eden was a preserve a sanctuary, that was created apart from the rest of the world It's sky could have very well have been vaulted. especially if science is correct is assuming that the earth was unlivable or most of it's existence.

God created a garden and covered it to protect everything in it till the rest of the planet matured.

Bullshit. The planet was formed from cosmic events having nothing to do with your ancient comic book.

The earth is 4 billion years old. Nothing in that comic book demonstrates any lick of knowledge of modern science.

The earth can be 40 trillion years old for all the bible cares. It changes nothing. The bible describes the creation of Eden apart from the rest of the earth. Which would absolutely support the idea/need for a firiminate to cover and protect the Garden.

Did nobody ever tell you that the Eden story in the bible is made up bullshit?

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(October 2, 2013 at 1:13 pm)Drich Wrote: 3 Then they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and bake them thoroughly.”

Even you said the Hebrew term simple describes color of the building material and not actual content.

How the hell do you think they make bricks? You take some clay, shape it into the shape you want, then bake it to harden it.

I hate this "that bible passage doesn't mean what it means" crap that Christians love to throw around.

(October 2, 2013 at 1:04 pm)Drich Wrote: Christ even when He walked amongst us allowed for doubt and disbelief. The passage where He identifies the unforgivable sin in the book of Matthew is proof of that. For even in the mist of all of the healings and miricals the Pharisees were allowed to doubt and disbelieve. They knew what He was doing to be genuine otherwise they would have called Him on it. So rather than accept who He claimed to be, they tried to say His miricals were of the Devil rather than accept Him as God.

So again even if you saw God, it does not mean you will accept Him. If you do not have the capacity to seek the proof God offers now, then you will not accepted if it is packaged a different way.

You can't determine what I would or wouldn't accept. The bible says God is unchanging therefore he wouldn't "package" it in a different way. They did try to call him on it. I'm not saying he's using the powers of Satan.... I don't think there were any miracles.

(October 2, 2013 at 9:02 am)Drich Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 8:47 am)max-greece Wrote: Does make you wonder why God was so worried when they started building the tower of Babel.

Because it show a colobration that would have taken man off the path He want us to be on..

"Surely man can accomplishanything he sets his mind to do, So let Us confuse his language."

Wait... what about free will?

(October 2, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 1:07 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: You think that the structure of the universe changed 6000 years ago??

Again the Garden of Eden was a preserve a sanctuary, that was created apart from the rest of the world It's sky could have very well have been vaulted. especially if science is correct is assuming that the earth was unlivable or most of it's existence.

God created a garden and covered it to protect everything in it till the rest of the planet matured.

How do you know? do you have any testable evidence of this? (a bronze age book of myths is NOT evidence)

(October 2, 2013 at 2:17 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Did nobody ever tell you that the Eden story in the bible is made up bullshit?

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(October 2, 2013 at 1:13 pm)Drich Wrote: 3 Then they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and bake them thoroughly.”

Even you said the Hebrew term simple describes color of the building material and not actual content.

How the hell do you think they make bricks? You take some clay, shape it into the shape you want, then bake it to harden it.

I hate this "that bible passage doesn't mean what it means" crap that Christians love to throw around.

If you take Clay and bake made baked clay aka ceramics. not bricks (nothing that will support any type of structure.)

Clay is nothing more than a media or filler. in order for a brick to be structurally sound there needs to be a binding agent in the presents of a compatiable reinforcing agent with in the brick itself, and a way to set it/cure it.

Which means there are potentially 1000's of possiable combinations of materials coming together under the same descriptive term, "Brick." ever been to home depot? do they sell just one kind of brick? is a brick you can use to trim out your garden the same brick used to support the foundation of a house?

This isn't about chopping the meaning of the bible's content up. This is just basic building material knowledge. Which is what is need to limit how tall one can estimate a structure to be.

If a building material content is unknown then it is unknown, and no one can truly limit what can and can not be done. If one insists then that insistence can be accurately identified as faith.

(October 2, 2013 at 2:15 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 1:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Bullshit. The planet was formed from cosmic events having nothing to do with your ancient comic book.

The earth is 4 billion years old. Nothing in that comic book demonstrates any lick of knowledge of modern science.

The earth can be 40 trillion years old for all the bible cares. It changes nothing. The bible describes the creation of Eden apart from the rest of the earth. Which would absolutely support the idea/need for a firiminate to cover and protect the Garden.

Yes when you pull shit out of your ass any holy book can say what you want it to say. But that does not demonstrate shit except a vivid imagination.

I've had people quote the Koran talking about "red sky" pointing to pictures of the "red nebula" claiming that proved the Koran was consistent with science.

Big whoopty shit. Get in line, take a number.