Since virtually every falsifiable proposition in the book has been falsified, there's no reason to imagine that the rest of it has any basis in reality.

You said we don't rise during the resurrection in our old bodies? Then why the does your NT go to lengths to show that Jesus did exactly that? His body was missing from the tomb, and his disciples felt the prints of his hands and feet and side where he was pierced. Not only that, but the dead rose from their graves and did the Michael Jackson Thriller dance in Jerusalem. If you don't believe any of that happened (and I'm damn glad if that's the case), then why believe in the Resurrection at all?

(October 8, 2013 at 3:01 pm)Zazzy Wrote: What is it that you think atheists are missing in their lives that religion could give them?

Intellectual consistency.

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(October 8, 2013 at 4:57 pm)pocaracas Wrote: That people are gullible across time and cultures...

There's always a few in every crowd that have to be contrarians.

(October 9, 2013 at 7:15 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Intellectual consistency.

That hardly exists amongst religious theologists.

It does not even appear amongst theists whatsoever.

If one wants true intellectual consistency, one needs to look no further than the one question that will answer the existence of a deity.

Do you have any proof beyond a personal I just feel that god exists?

(October 9, 2013 at 2:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Naked assertion<=pull crap out of their ass<=desired outcome

Yours works like this:
Demand evidence, don't listen, piss and moan that your not convinced, insult Christians.

(October 9, 2013 at 7:24 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Yours works like this:
Demand evidence, don't listen, piss and moan that your not convinced, insult Christians.

False.

It is more like this:

Atheist: where's the evidence?
Theist: right here.
Atheist: that's not evidence.
Theist: Sure it is.
Atheist: If it was true evidence, it would be accepted by those intelligent enough to accept it as evidence.
Theist: You're just close-minded and stupid.

(October 9, 2013 at 3:01 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Been there, done that. I was a Christian, years ago...
Reading the damn bible was a large part of disabusing me of any notion that I wanted to continue being one.

I was an atheist years ago. Then I read the Bible with a fresh set of eyes and it opened up for me. YMMV

(October 9, 2013 at 7:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I was an atheist years ago. Then I read the Bible with a fresh set of eyes and it opened up for me. YMMV

False. You read it with rose-colored glasses. Most likely, you were having troubles in your life at the time, and false biblical words persuaded you in your time of weakness.

(October 9, 2013 at 4:04 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: For how many centuries was it seen to be literal historical fact?
It was many centuries wasn't it.

Origen, one of the earliest Christian writers considered much of it allegorical. The fact is that since the very beginning people have considered the text from multiple perspectives.

(October 9, 2013 at 7:31 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: The fact is that since the very beginning people have considered the text from multiple perspectives.

Yes, much the same way people view fiction.