http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31...82039.html

Imagine if most of the world's rich thought like this.

It does make me happy that some billionares do not have sociopathic disorders unlike most of them. However, saying they feel sad and actually trying to subvert the 2nd American Gilded Age is another thing. Capitialism has become a religion due to Cold War propaganda and the baby boomers champion their slave masters. I cannot help but feel cynical towards this, because I feel very little change will ever come to this country with out the support of the people. As far as I see people are drawn to their cages and will fight to defend them.

(November 5, 2013 at 9:36 am)bladevalant546 Wrote: It does make me happy that some billionares do not have sociopathic disorders unlike most of them. However, saying they feel sad and actually trying to subvert the 2nd American Gilded Age is another thing. Capitialism has become a religion due to Cold War propaganda and the baby boomers champion their slave masters. I cannot help but feel cynical towards this, because I feel very little change will ever come to this country with out the support of the people. As far as I see people are drawn to their cages and will fight to defend them.

Boy do I get a lip twitch when people misuse the word "capitalism". IT IS NOT A FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

Gaddafi was a billionaire who owned stock in GE. Saudi Arabia makes money off the monopoly of oil they sell to the world and is in control of a select few. China capitalizes off the sale of cheap goods and slave wages to the rest of the world.

The issue is more of what you say, sociopaths, not wealth itself. If some wealthy people can come to this conclusion, then the issue is climate change to increase this attitude in more wealthy people, not try to end all private business ownership itself.

Monopolies of power are the problem, pay inequity is the problem, not wealth itself.

Quote:Boy do I get a lip twitch when people misuse the word "capitalism". IT IS NOT A FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

(I never stated it was a “form of government”, however it is evolving to be a new form of government called a Corporatocracy. My context was address the near religion zeal that people champion capitalism as the “Jesus” of all economic systems [even though most are supporting the flaw supply-side economics than true capitalism] such as the tea party or Ayn Rand cultists. Any alternative thoughts or solutions are instantly shot down and called “godless socialism or communism”. I do understand how you can misunderstand that as most people use it as a “form of government”.)

Quote:Gaddafi was a billionaire who owned stock in GE. Saudi Arabia makes money off the monopoly of oil they sell to the world and is in control of a select few. China capitalizes off the sale of cheap goods and slave wages to the rest of the world.

(I do not disagree and I always say that until we pass international labor laws, capitalist countries cannot compete with slave labor. )

Quote: The issue is more of what you say, sociopaths, not wealth itself. If some wealthy people can come to this conclusion, then the issue is climate change to increase this attitude in more wealthy people, not try to end all private business ownership itself.

(I never attacked wealth, I can see how you can gather than for that I apologize. You are right that was my focus, most of these “corporate gods” have narcissistic personal disorder, or down right sociopaths. I am more negative than I should be, however you are right if a few of these guys can wake up maybe they can propel more change. After all they need to empower the intelligent masses. I also not against private ownership I am just against cronyism and corporatism. )

Quote:Monopolies of power are the problem, pay inequity is the problem, not wealth itself.

(No disagreement there, I just feel that with the paradigm of old archaic ideas of social class through monetary feudalism, little change will come unless the power shifts towards humanistic ideals rather than cheap monetary ideals. It is a process and maybe monetary motives will be a factor to achieve this said goal. At least progress in our social evolution.)

Well in making change we cant beat diversity out of our species. We will always be motivated by different things.

Too many take capitalism to its extremes, to the "I got mine and fuck you" level. Looking at how the Republican party is so much against paying taxes in order to improve the country, this should be quite evident.

I think it is our diversity that is our strength. I do not know the full solution on how we can achieve this. However, there is something very wrong with our country and the world in regards to income inequality. This will only exacerbate this more with the dawn of 3d printers, cyber technology, and genetics. Like it or not technology is going to replace a lot of our “jobs” and what then?

(November 5, 2013 at 10:28 am)bladevalant546 Wrote: I think it is our diversity that is our strength. I do not know the full solution on how we can achieve this. However, there is something very wrong with our country and the world in regards to income inequality. This will only exacerbate this more with the dawn of 3d printers, cyber technology, and genetics. Like it or not technology is going to replace a lot of our “jobs” and what then?

No more "robotic" jobs! Robots will take those! More problem-solving jobs perhaps? Like, people who engineer those robots? -suggestion

It's not like we have a lot of manufacturing jobs in this country anyway, since everything's made in China.

(November 5, 2013 at 10:20 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Too many take capitalism to its extremes, to the "I got mine and fuck you" level. Looking at how the Republican party is so much against paying taxes in order to improve the country, this should be quite evident.

So? That's not "capitalism" that is the party who is run by the class monopoly. Wealth is not the problem, the monopoly of power is the problem.