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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 7, 2013 at 10:26 am
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(November 7, 2013 at 9:56 am)Stimbo Wrote: (November 6, 2013 at 10:04 am)enrico Wrote: In other word you can give the meaning that you like to the word theory but the original meaning contradict your believe.
Yes you can, but if you have to do that to make your ideas work then the problem lies with those ideas and not the people you're trying to convince. Words evolve meanings over time, it's true; however that doesn't mean they are arbitrary things that can have any definition you feel like assigning them. That's why we have dictionaries and the ability - generally - to make ourselves understood. If you want to talk science and have your ideas taken seriously, you need to accept the language of science unless you have a bloody good reason not to. You have an issue with the modern scientific definition of the word "theory", take it up with the National Center for Science Education.
But if you want to go down the route of using only the 'original' meanings of commonly-accepted words because they're not as inconvenient for you, then you'd better leave Atheist Forums since an atheist was originally a christian, a person who denied the existence of the Roman gods. In fact, stop using your computer, given that the word originally meant a person who calculated numbers for a living, and start telling everyone you use an electric Difference Engine.
Or we could stop this silly semantic game and actually have a proper grown-up discussion.
One day i asked my doctor........DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE MEANING OF CANCER?
He said.........WHAT YOU MEAN?
Look, i know that you know what a cancer is but i just want to know if you know where the word cancer come from and why someone in the past gave that particular name.
He said.........AH, I SEE.........NO, I REALLY DON"T KNOW.
Sure Stimbo as far as you learn what the modern science establish than you shouldn't have any problem, after all who care where the meaning of the words come from as far as you can manage the daily life.
But a big problem may arise.
Take the religions which they are builded on dogmas or false truth.
After so many times that the meaning of the words get changed the original message become a false truth.
The same thing happen in all field of life.
What was a truth yesterday today will end up in the rubbish bin of history.
Not all the changes are good changes.
We need to change to survive but we got to be very careful and make sure the changes come for the good.
The word theory has been vandalized and his original meaning is gone for many.
Not for me however.
(November 6, 2013 at 10:40 am)Rationalman Wrote: Thanks for completely ignoring my post on what a theory actually is. That speaks volumes about you
1) You say that you know what a theory is and you say that they are facts and evidence.
I already said that not all theory are backed up by facts and evidence.
In fact most theories are just ideas not back up by facts and evidence.
2) I did not answer you because i already explain these points in reply to Stimbo.
3) I do not have always the time to answer all posts.
Sometime enrico goes to sleep like everybody else.
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 7, 2013 at 10:46 am
And then posts while unconscious.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 7, 2013 at 10:56 am
(November 7, 2013 at 10:46 am)Stimbo Wrote: And then posts while unconscious.
The only way I can think that one could post such ludicrous nonsense is if one were eternally drunk.
Maybe that's señor enrico's spiritualism? Drowning in booze gets you closer to a god or something.
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 7, 2013 at 10:59 am
Worked out what's in the green box yet, Rico?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 7, 2013 at 11:08 am
Don't forget to employ your intuition scientifically, Enrico. You can do it. What's in the green box?
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm
Enrice, I'm gonna share a little secret with you. Truth's don't change.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 7, 2013 at 1:32 pm
(November 7, 2013 at 10:26 am)enrico Wrote: 1) You say that you know what a theory is and you say that they are facts and evidence.
I already said that not all theory are backed up by facts and evidence.
Yes they are. If they are not backed up by evidence, then they are not theories. They are ideas or hypotheses, much like every religion today. You really have no idea how much time, money and effort is put into testing theories, do you? How rigorously they are scrutinized or how they are compiled
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 7, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Enrico posts hard to follow. Grammar no good.
Intuitional science no teach English.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 9, 2013 at 9:55 am
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 9, 2013 at 10:35 am
I'm going to go ahead and cut your semantics off at the knees boyo.
Quote:1) You say that you know what a theory is and you say that they are facts and evidence.
Do you know that in today's modern society there are two different kinds of theories? One, scientific theory, is a proven explanation of natural events backed entirely by facts and research. Two, theory, is from abstract thinking and is used in day to day conversation outside of science and is used frequently in subjects such as philosophy or theology.
There's a difference, now learn it. A part of reading and conversational comprehension is understanding the use(s) of words in their current form.
Now why don't you go have a nice adult conversation instead of nitpicking over definition.
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