Fun fact, enrico: scoffing like a fucking idiot isn't a rebuttal. No matter how arrogantly you feign amusement at the things we say, we can all tell that the truth is, you either cannot understand them, or have no response of any weight to them.

(November 14, 2013 at 9:37 am)enrico Wrote:

(November 14, 2013 at 8:58 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: What's in the box? You've steadfastly refused to answer that, which just makes you look more hilarious. Takes a guess.

You got a problem mate.
If you would have look properly in one of my previous posts you would have found my answer to that question.

You mean this (non) response?:

Quote:Eh, i am only a white belt.
When i get the black belt i will tell you.
But not really.
Even when i will get the black belt i will not tell you.
Have you ever seen a master going around the street to show his-her skills?
The last thing that the masters do is to show their skills to unbelievers.
Eventually they show to believers
You got to establish a real relationship with someone that you trust in order to enjoy love In this case spiritual love.
What's the point into show not believers something good
The rule is that you give fodder to donkeys and royal jelly to love ones.Smile

Oh...that was it......


.....oh. So you're basically just lying then about all this shit you're talking about, right? So you're, like, a big giant fraud?

So...what's in the green box? Tell us, and you can prove yourself right and us wrong.

How does it feel to be so delusional? Genuine question. I think your delusions have reached such a high point that they'd actually be interesting to study.

Poor, poor rico. Nobody believes him. Acting pompous doesn't equate with knowing anything. Too bad. You've got the arrogance down cold. If only there was any reason for it. Oh well.

(November 14, 2013 at 9:58 am)enrico Wrote: Strange indeed.
You guys rely on physical science so if you follow this policy you would trust Abe Alexander after all he is a neurosurgeon.
But no.
So what policy are you following?
The cherry picking policy?

I am following the policy that says that if you make something up, I am not compelled to believe it.

(November 14, 2013 at 9:58 am)enrico Wrote: Scientific consensus...
You mean that the guys that are engaged in physical science managed to find what lie outside the corral in which they are stuck to?
Since when something non physical like consciousness can be study by physical science?
Can you see how foolish you are?
You have become an embarrassment to most of the other atheist guys.

This is just impossible, you have the scientific knowledge of a slug and the stubbornness of a mule coupled with the arrogance of King Joffrey himself.

Everything going on in the brain can be measured. The fact that you do not know this is testament to your incredible ignorance. We can tell when someone is asleep, unconscious, awake and in REM sleep all through brain waves and electrical and chemical activity in the brain. You are not only an embarrassment to theists everywhere but an embarrassment to humanity. The fact that this world could produce such an uneducated, illogical, irrational, mindless drone such as yourself, really makes me lose hope for this planet and the humans on it.

Me arguing with you is the equivalent of a person from the 21st century trying to explain what a mobile phone is to a caveman. It is absolutely pointless due to the fact that you can not even comprehend the things we are talking about, let alone understand them.

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(November 14, 2013 at 10:42 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: How does it feel to be so delusional? Genuine question. I think your delusions have reached such a high point that they'd actually be interesting to study.

I wouldn't mind dissecting his brain to find out what has gone wrong in there, because there is definitely something wrong in there.

(November 14, 2013 at 10:18 am)Esquilax Wrote: Fun fact, enrico: scoffing like a fucking idiot isn't a rebuttal. No matter how arrogantly you feign amusement at the things we say, we can all tell that the truth is, you either cannot understand them, or have no response of any weight to them.

Gee, you know what the truth is but you want tell me!
You let me go through thousand of pages in search for your truth and i never find it.
Please tell me where you are hiding the real truth so i end up my torture.

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(November 14, 2013 at 10:42 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: .....oh. So you're basically just lying then about all this shit you're talking about, right? So you're, like, a big giant fraud?
So...what's in the green box? Tell us, and you can prove yourself right and us wrong. How does it feel to be so delusional? Genuine question. I think your delusions have reached such a high point that they'd actually be interesting to study.

How arrogant can you be!
Would you ask your son in the primary school stuff that is studied at the uni and then when your son can not reply tell him that he is delusional?
You must be sick boy.

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(November 14, 2013 at 11:11 am)whateverist Wrote: Poor, poor rico. Nobody believes him. Acting pompous doesn't equate with knowing anything. Too bad. You've got the arrogance down cold. If only there was any reason for it. Oh well.

Acting pompous!
Good one.
I wanted to start a conversation on philosophy but no one could tell me the meaning of this word.
The same with religion and with all other issue but no one could tell me the basic which are how the religions started, what is the difference between religion and spirituality and so on.
So is the pompous the one who can not get answer or the one who write in forums related to these issue and not having a clue about them?

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(November 14, 2013 at 11:16 am)Tonus Wrote:

(November 14, 2013 at 9:58 am)enrico Wrote: Strange indeed.
You guys rely on physical science so if you follow this policy you would trust Abe Alexander after all he is a neurosurgeon.
But no.
So what policy are you following?
The cherry picking policy?

I am following the policy that says that if you make something up, I am not compelled to believe it.

So you are 100% sure that Abe Alexander make something up?

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(November 14, 2013 at 12:57 pm)Rationalman Wrote: .................you can not even comprehend the things we are talking about, let alone understand them.

Gee, i must find very difficult to understand what you are talking about when you say that life is finite.
What would you ever mean considering that this truth of yours is not backed up by evidence?
Maybe you look at your crystal ball and you saw the truth in there?
Gee, i can't really argue with crystal balls!

(November 15, 2013 at 8:05 am)enrico Wrote: I wanted to start a conversation on philosophy but no one could tell me the meaning of this word.
The same with religion and with all other issue but no one could tell me the basic which are how the religions started, what is the difference between religion and spirituality and so on.

I can't tell you the basics of religion or spirituality. There are many different traditions of which religion or spirituality plays a part. I also can't tell you what gods are, but then even those who claim to know what they are don't agree on a description. You probably have your own idea of what god is and you're welcome to it. But since I don't have one it isn't a topic of interest to me.

I do believe in consciousness however because I have direct experience of that. My suspicion is that our brains are elastic enough to support not only the program we call our conscious mind but also others, including whatever it is people believe to be their god.

We could discuss philosophy. I have some ideas. My own philosophic bent is toward plain speech. If a thing can be said at all it should be possible to say it simply. Anything which cannot be said plainly is suspect. The chief purpose of philosophy is to sketch out what is and isn't known in areas which are not yet fully understood.

There is also a history of philosophy. Unfortunately, many seem to think philosophy is a kind of bazaar where one can look for positions and opinions one might like to hold. That may be what many people do with it but that isn't philosophy.

(November 15, 2013 at 8:05 am)enrico Wrote: Gee, i must find very difficult to understand what you are talking about when you say that life is finite.
What would you ever mean considering that this truth of yours is not backed up by evidence?
Maybe you look at your crystal ball and you saw the truth in there?
Gee, i can't really argue with crystal balls!

You know its a bad rebuttal when I can replace just one word to turn your answer back at you. Replace finite with infinite.

(November 15, 2013 at 8:05 am)enrico Wrote:

(November 14, 2013 at 10:42 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: .....oh. So you're basically just lying then about all this shit you're talking about, right? So you're, like, a big giant fraud?
So...what's in the green box? Tell us, and you can prove yourself right and us wrong. How does it feel to be so delusional? Genuine question. I think your delusions have reached such a high point that they'd actually be interesting to study.

How arrogant can you be!
Would you ask your son in the primary school stuff that is studied at the uni and then when your son can not reply tell him that he is delusional?
You must be sick boy.

Hey asshole. You're the one touting this intuitional science bullshit. Yet when given an opportunity to actually display it's awesome power you attempt to obfuscate and dodge.

So in summary, you're a fraud and a liar, not to mention a delusional crazy person. Me being arrogant doesn't stop that being true does it?

If I had a son, I'd immediately take him out of a school if it was teaching the same crazy bollocks you're forwarding and proceed to lobby for the imprisonment of those teachers supporting this on grounds of child abuse.

So what's in the goddamn box, mr fraud? Tell us or stick it up your ass.

(November 15, 2013 at 8:05 am)enrico Wrote: So you are 100% sure that Abe Alexander make something up?

I am 100% sure that, as I stated, I am not compelled to believe claims that he makes up. If he isn't just making something up, he can present his case. If it is compelling I would consider it further.

By the same token, I am not compelled to believe your made-up claims. If you aren't making things up, by all means present your case. If you are claiming that you've presented your case, I would have to say that it's not a compelling one.