Let's play substitution and see if we try any other group how bigoted it sounds.

First, the easiest:

(December 7, 2013 at 11:12 pm)Rahul Wrote: The Indians Jews have been marginalized and slaughtered by their neighbors for millennia. If they want one solitary country to reside in where they are not the minority for once, I'm all for it. If they don't want to take shit from anyone anymore instead of being led to the slaughter yet again I applaud them. If they happen to kill some Texans Muslims while defending themselves I'm not going to shed any tears. In fact I may donate some ammo.

Let's be more gritty.

Let's remember the Atlantic Slave Trade, done by both Black, Arab and White merchants.

(December 7, 2013 at 11:12 pm)Rahul Wrote: The Blacks Jews have been marginalized and slaughtered by their neighbors for millennia. If they want one solitary country to reside in where they are not the minority for once, I'm all for it. If they don't want to take shit from anyone anymore instead of being led to the slaughter yet again I applaud them. If they happen to kill some Whites Muslims while defending themselves I'm not going to shed any tears. In fact I may donate some ammo.

Were you to applaud the deaths of any "race" (such a slippery term) based solely upon their identification (and not, say, criminal actions), you're using the same hatred that justified the Holocaust.

Physician, heal thyself!

Not only is the claim to that land expired worse than a gallon of milk from 1927, but Jews have many, many options if they want to live in a place that will be friendly to them. Anti-semitism isn't what it used to be throughout the western world, to say the very least. But, they do have that land now and that's that. Thing is, it's not up to me, or my country, to make sure they keep it.

"No, the Indians have been horribly mistreated, but 6 million of them haven't been killed. And Islam isn't a race, it is a totalitarian ideology."

Actually it rather depends on who you read as to how many Native Americans were systematically exterminated over a 100 year period. Most numbers are considerably in excess of the 6 million.

This is not the way to justify Zionism or Israel.

(December 8, 2013 at 4:04 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Anti-semitism isn't what it used to be throughout the western world, to say the very least.

Actually so many people being "anti-Zionist" (read: antisemitism) proves that antisemitism is alive and well through the Western World.

Also, Islam is not a race. Yes, Judaism is also a totalitarian ideology; which is why it is good that Israel has historically been led by atheists who hated Judaism. David Ben-Gurion (one of the fathers of Israel) was described by a Judaist as "to have hated Judaism more than any other man he had met." The Jews are united by secular culture more than religion. Anyone who tosses around words like racism to silence dissent from the agenda of Islamification is an Islamofascist.

If Israel is such a theocracy, I would love to hear your explanation for how a man who hated Judaism became leader.

(December 8, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:

(December 8, 2013 at 8:47 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: Anyone who tosses around words like racism to silence dissent from the agenda of Islamification is an Islamofascist.

Irrelevant.

You have made a thought terminating cliche, indulged in poisoning the well, etc, etc,.

(December 8, 2013 at 8:47 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: If Israel is such a theocracy, I would love to hear your explanation for how a man who hated Judaism became leader.

If Iran is such a theocracy, I would love to hear your explanation for how the Shah who hated Islam became leader.

See how irrelevant such statements are?

Nothing precludes a nation from favouring religious or ethnic groups.

Where is your evidence that the Shaw hated Islam. I have a quote from Yeshayahu Leibowitz showing that one of Israel's fathers hated Judaism.

A religion is not the same as a race, otherwise all anti-theists would be racists. I am not a racist. I could perhaps be described as a cultural supremacist, but not a racist.

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(December 8, 2013 at 9:54 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 8, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Irrelevant.

You have made a thought terminating cliche, indulged in poisoning the well, etc, etc,.


If Iran is such a theocracy, I would love to hear your explanation for how the Shah who hated Islam became leader.

See how irrelevant such statements are?

Nothing precludes a nation from favouring religious or ethnic groups.

Where is your evidence that the Shaw hated Islam. I have a quote from Yeshayahu Leibowitz showing that one of Israel's fathers hated Judaism.

A religion is not the same as a race, otherwise all anti-theists would be racists. I am not a racist. I could perhaps be described as a cultural supremacist, but not a racist.

This merely proves the antisemitism of modern culture. I dare to speak out in defence of the Jews & look what happens!