(December 12, 2013 at 12:12 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 12:03 am)MarxRaptor Wrote: Jew & Arab could not be more dissimilar. The Jews are the most technology advanced people ever to live, yet the Arabs are a bunch of totally primitive savages.

I personally believe that most of your statements are of dubious credibility. Jews are not the technologically most-advanced people(though arguably more advanced than their arab neighbors), and never have been, in fact, they didn't even have a common language until the foundation of Israel, which leads to the fact that you're nothing but a jew-loving communist.
Though really, I don't think that anyone but God can save the Jews from their inevitable fate. They have not had a presence in the holy lands for hundreds of years, and now they have a small enclave there, and eventually, they will be overrun. Or perhaps, they'll emigrate before they do. From what I hear, the number of Jews leaving Israel is greater than the number of Jews emigrating to Israel.

Don't be silly. Israel will last a million years! Shalom!

(December 12, 2013 at 12:16 am)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 12:12 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I personally believe that most of your statements are of dubious credibility. Jews are not the technologically most-advanced people(though arguably more advanced than their arab neighbors), and never have been, in fact, they didn't even have a common language until the foundation of Israel, which leads to the fact that you're nothing but a jew-loving communist.
Though really, I don't think that anyone but God can save the Jews from their inevitable fate. They have not had a presence in the holy lands for hundreds of years, and now they have a small enclave there, and eventually, they will be overrun. Or perhaps, they'll emigrate before they do. From what I hear, the number of Jews leaving Israel is greater than the number of Jews emigrating to Israel.

Don't be silly. Israel will last a million years! Shalom!

Well, I don't really care, I just don't want them in my way.

(December 12, 2013 at 12:18 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 12:16 am)MarxRaptor Wrote: Don't be silly. Israel will last a million years! Shalom!

Well, I don't really care, I just don't want them in my way.

What are you going to do? You don't seem like the type to lead a national revolution. You just seem like a crazy teenager.

(December 12, 2013 at 12:20 am)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 12:18 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, I don't really care, I just don't want them in my way.

What are you going to do? You don't seem like the type to lead a national revolution. You just seem like a crazy teenager.

You have to be crazy to do something extraordinary. You have to be a fanatic, an extremist, you must be ready to lay down your life and all your possessions, you must be selfless and without no other purpose in your life beyond the well-being of your people.
My age is not important, although I'm in my mid twenties. What matters is the fire in my soul and the hatred in my heart.

(December 12, 2013 at 12:24 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 12:20 am)MarxRaptor Wrote: What are you going to do? You don't seem like the type to lead a national revolution. You just seem like a crazy teenager.

You have to be crazy to do something extraordinary. You have to be a fanatic, an extremist, you must be ready to lay down your life and all your possessions, you must be selfless and without no other purpose in your life beyond the well-being of your people.
My age is not important, although I'm in my mid twenties. What matters is the fire in my soul and the hatred in my heart.

You do that. I'm going to look after myself. Then again, I am a selfish, debauched, Jew-loving communist. An attitude like yours merely creates martyrs & foot soldiers. Real revolutions are led by men like me, who are cunning & clever.

(December 12, 2013 at 12:30 am)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 12:24 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: You have to be crazy to do something extraordinary. You have to be a fanatic, an extremist, you must be ready to lay down your life and all your possessions, you must be selfless and without no other purpose in your life beyond the well-being of your people.
My age is not important, although I'm in my mid twenties. What matters is the fire in my soul and the hatred in my heart.

You do that. I'm going to look after myself. Then again, I am a selfish, debauched, Jew-loving communist. An attitude like yours merely creates martyrs & foot soldiers. Real revolutions are led by men like me, who are cunning & clever.

I really think that you should re-consider your "views". You're a mess.
You're not cunning nor clever, nor do you have a devotion to a cause. If anything, you're fit to be the leader of a mercenary band, working for the highest bidder.

(December 12, 2013 at 12:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 12:30 am)MarxRaptor Wrote: You do that. I'm going to look after myself. Then again, I am a selfish, debauched, Jew-loving communist. An attitude like yours merely creates martyrs & foot soldiers. Real revolutions are led by men like me, who are cunning & clever.

I really think that you should re-consider your "views". You're a mess.
You're not cunning nor clever, nor do you have a devotion to a cause. If anything, you're fit to be the leader of a mercenary band, working for the highest bidder.

My cause is self-preservation & indulgence. I am not a foot soldier. I want to be part of the elite, not a victim of it. Hence I love all that is just & superior; like the Jews.

Let fools & foot-soldiers die for foolish causes, they will never see the real spoils.

There is one thing about this I think we foget, its not like the jews just showed up on the arabs door one day and said GTFO, they were immigranting to palestine for years, and by the time they wanted their own nation they accounted for a 1/3-1/2 of palestinian population, depending on the margin of error

(December 12, 2013 at 12:41 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: There is one thing about this I think we foget, its not like the jews just showed up on the arabs door one day and said GTFO, they were immigranting to palestine for years, and by the time they wanted their own nation they accounted for a 1/3-1/2 of palestinian population, depending on the margin of error

Yes, as Golda Meir said; "There were no such thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian state? It was either southern Syria before the First World War, and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist."

(December 12, 2013 at 12:38 am)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 12:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I really think that you should re-consider your "views". You're a mess.
You're not cunning nor clever, nor do you have a devotion to a cause. If anything, you're fit to be the leader of a mercenary band, working for the highest bidder.

My cause is self-preservation & indulgence. I am not a foot soldier. I want to be part of the elite, not a victim of it. Hence I love all that is just & superior; like the Jews.

Let fools & foot-soldiers die for foolish causes, they will never see the real spoils.

Maybe its best that you pay us homage then.

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(December 12, 2013 at 12:41 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: There is one thing about this I think we foget, its not like the jews just showed up on the arabs door one day and said GTFO, they were immigranting to palestine for years, and by the time they wanted their own nation they accounted for a 1/3-1/2 of palestinian population, depending on the margin of error

I wouldn't have objected even if they just showed up. They took it by means of might, so its theirs until someone else is able to take it from them.