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RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
December 23, 2013 at 9:09 am
(December 23, 2013 at 4:42 am)savedwheat Wrote: If God exists I wouldn't say He comes from something, for He would have always existed. That which always existed is uncreated so would not come from nothing.
Let's see if I have this right:
Extraordinarily complex and powerful being capable of feats that we cannot even comprehend due to their scale? ALWAYS EXISTED, THEREFORE DID NOT HAVE TO BE CREATED.
A few trillion tons of debris floating around in space? COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLY EXISTED BY ITSELF. HAD TO HAVE BEEN CREATED.
Does that about cover it?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
December 23, 2013 at 12:08 pm
If the negative involves mutually exclusive contradictory properties, such as the classic married bachelor, then it tends to disprove itself. A pertinent example would be a self-evident god that interacts with the Universe yet remains absolutely undetectable.
The principle reason why atheists don't have a burden of proof is that atheists aren't trying to prove anything.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
December 23, 2013 at 12:11 pm
Looks like y'all have given poor ol' saved wheat the shaft. Creamed wheat even.
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RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
December 23, 2013 at 12:38 pm
To each his just desserts.
This guy has said nothing about what he believes or what makes him convinced. He can't give you enough of an account of what this 'god' is supposed to be so that we could know it if we experienced it.
He's like a relentless car salesman. What would it take to see you drive away with god today? What would it take to convince you.