I don't know what a singularity it is. Do you? Perhaps define your terms.

(December 23, 2013 at 3:59 pm)savedwheat Wrote: Since something can't come from nothing and infinite regress is impossible, nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space being uncreated whom we call God.

Argument from absolutes. Which, if it isn't already a thing it bloody well is now.

"Something can't come from nothing" - then where did this god come from?

The necessity of the uncreated Creator would make your question illogical when you ask what caused the uncaused.

(December 23, 2013 at 5:35 pm)savedwheat Wrote: The necessity of the uncreated Creator would make your question illogical when you ask what caused the uncaused.

Except that you haven't demonstrated this alleged necessity. Again, piling up unsupported claims does not an argument make.

The necessity comes from the fact that nature needs a cause outside itself.

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How can this wheat fellow understand anything, if he doesn't know what a singularity is... and he claims to have read Krauss's book... I wonder...

(December 23, 2013 at 5:49 pm)pocaracas Wrote: How can this wheat fellow understand anything, if he doesn't know what a singularity is... and he claims to have read Krauss's book... I wonder...

I don't.

How many cause and effects can you think up and how many instances can you think of something coming from nothing?

This is my evidence.

(December 23, 2013 at 3:59 pm)savedwheat Wrote: Since something can't come from nothing and infinite regress is impossible

Proof of these two claims?

The proof is we observe only cause and effects in society, and if infinite regress were true you would have had an eternity to come into being before now so you should have already happened. Therefore, nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.