Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?

[Crossless2.0]

How many cause and effects can you think up and how many instances can you think of something coming from nothing?

This is my evidence.

Cause/effect are relationships that hold within time/space. It is illegitimate to discuss cause and effect "outside" of time and space. Anyway, your endless prattling about something from nothing is one big red herring, since a singularity is not "nothing."

[Jackalope]

How many cause and effects can you think up and how many instances can you think of something coming from nothing?

This is my evidence.

So, argument from ignorance then.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

No response to my post, wheat?

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The proof is we observe only cause and effects in society, and if infinite regress were true you would have had an eternity to come into being before now so you should have already happened. Therefore, nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

Hold on there cowboy.

We haven't even gotten past what you believe in yet as you haven't demonstrated anything about a god aside mere assertion.

Let's not run before we can walk, eh?

[Jackalope]

The proof is we observe only cause and effects in society, and if infinite regress were true you would have had an eternity to come into being before now so you should have already happened. Therefore, nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

You do realize we are speaking of causality as it relates to physics? You appear to be in WAY over your head.

[KUSA]

Mr Wheat,
The only thing that exists outside of nature is fantasy. If something exists it is part of nature. If you claim that something exists please show it to us instead of typing in circles.
The fact is you have nothing to show. You argue something that is pure fantasy. It is one thing to believe in a fantasy but it is another thing to actually argue it to others as fact.
You have nothing and you should admit it. You have no relationship with this fantasy god. You have never seen proof or any evidence. You have nothing but a brainwashed imagination.
I will anti-pray for you to be released from your mental bondage.

[Mister Agenda]

Why should someone be an atheist?

You shouldn't be an atheist, unless you don't believe in God. However, if you don't believe in any god or God, you really should be an atheist.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

None of those edicts are contemporary. They are written hundreds of years later. Whereas the NT was completed by 70 AD except for Revelation 95 AD just a few decades later holding the highest of standards.

No, the Augustan Edicts were written BY Augustus (this is why they're called 'The Augustan Edicts'). If you have evidence that 'they are written hundreds of years later', trot it out.

Let's assume for the nonce that the NT was completed by 70 AD (it isn't true, but let's assume it). This is still more than 30 years after the alleged death of Jesus. Suppose you had a good friend who snuffed it 30 years before you decided to write about him. But your friend left no personal diary, he wasn't written about in any newspaper accounts - all you have to rely on is your own memory of what he said and what he did and where he went, etc. No person in their right mind would accept your writings as historically reliable, they might even question whether your friend existed at all. This is EXACTLY the case with Jesus.

Now, suppose you had met this friend a few years before his death. You had a heavy correspondence, he sent you lots of letters giving you details about his childhood, his job, his personal outlook on life, and such. Furthermore, he mentioned people you both knew and who knew you both. Your friend became famous, and his likeness hung in galleries and studios all over the world. Someone would have to be delusional (there's that word again) to question your friend's existence. This is EXACTLY the case with Augustus.

No sign of a new left eye, by the way. I suppose I'll have to remain unconvinced.

Boru

[LostLocke]

And of course another fun part would be to ask him, where did all the 'stuff' of the universe come from?

And I don't mean, God made it. I mean, where did it come from?
Did God pull a chunck of himself off and mold the earth out of it? Or what happened? What forces does he use, what materials were needed, what energy was used, etc etc etc?

Traditional belief holds that God simply "spoke it into existence".
IE... creation came from nothing.

[Whateverist]

If, as I allege, the necessity of the uncreated Creator would make your question illogical when you ask what caused the uncaused.

Fixed that for you. In your alternative universe you're really wiping the floor with us aren't you? Your fellow bible buddies are never going to believe this incredible adventure you're having here at damned.org.

[Bucky Ball]

Is the Bible just making a claim or is it using testimony, both oral and written?

I can testify that you have been banned at TTA because you constantly make idiot assertions and repeat the nonsense of Kalam, which was long ago debunked. The Bible is not "testimony". It (political) "propaganda", among other things. Tell us un-saved-chaff, when is the end-times coming ? Next week, or tomorrow ? The last time i looked the Babble was "written". It's a set of scrolls, written by humans, with countless mistakes, which were non-unanimously voted (by ignorant humans who thought the Earth was flat), and that babies were implanted "whole" by male seed into fertile women to grow. You NEED to take the Babble literally as you are mentally unstable, as you demonstrated on TTA. Without your fundie beliefs, you would be in the nut house.


meow

(Jebus is lard).

(He told me I am possessed by a DEBIL. Fancy that. In 2013, a human who STILL believes in debils. LOL)
Bee-zle-bub the debil.
Alleluia